I also got the H1N1 shot too high in my shoulder and have rotator cuff issues since the shot on Oct 28th.
Within hours I was unable to move my arm and had excrutiating pain. I have done physio, massage, laser and still have a lot of supraspinatus weakness. My cuff muscles dont even hold my humeral head firmly into the joint.
I am exercising but have limited progress- just dont know what to do....
Carla
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Joshua Answers:
Hi Carla.
That doesn't sound fun at all....
I doubt it was about the shot being too high.
Possibly the needle hit just the right spot in a nerve/tendon which caused a cascade of negative factors. It's possible, but unlikely.
Needle insertions themselves have their risks. Not very risky, but it happens. There are nerves in there, and if a needle happents to pierce one...
It's more likely something to do with A. Your body's reaction to the contents of the injection and/or B. the unhealthy ingredients of the shot interacting poorly with your structure and system.
When the Swine Flu shots were first released, UK neurologists were warned to keep an eye out for Guillain-Barre symptoms.
Bad news. No cure. Doesn't sound like you.
People can have 'allergic' reactions to flu shots. People can have weird, way over the top responses to flu shots.
And the fact is, there are toxic ingredients in the H1N1 flue shots that some people's body's don't do well with. Deaths and damage is showing up in people who've had the swine flu vaccinations.
Whether due to toxicity or not, I rather suspect you got the shot, your nervous system saw danger and reacted/overreacted in this particular manner. It's strange, odd, but weird stuff happens with the body.
So. Either the needle (and forced insertion of fluid) caused some actual physical damage, or your body is responding to toxic/foreign elements in the swine flu shot.
Let's investigate and see what we can figure out.
Questions:
1. Is the pain/weakness spreading?
2. Did it show up exactly how it is now? Or did it start small and the grow/spread.
3. If it's 'getting better', what exactly does that mean? Details please.
4. What was/is your overall health?
5. Had any antibiotics in the lat 5 years? Levaquin, Cipro, anything else in the fluoroquinolone family? It sounds similar to Levaquin Tendonitis.
Let's rule that out.
6. What are doctors saying about this? Are they treating this like a physical injury or as a swine fle shot side effect? Does it seem like they have any idea what they're doing?
Answer the above, add anything else that might be helpful/of interest, and let's see what we see.
And I'll suggest a couple things that you can do that may help.
PART 2 - answers - H1N1 Shot Immediately Followed By Pain And Muscle Weakness by: Carla
Thanks for your prompt reponse!
Here are the answers to your questions.
My health is excellent and I dont have any prior joint injuries.
Initially the pain was very bad but has decreased. My strength is also increasing slowly. I still have a lot of weakness in my suprasinatus.
My physio is baffled- he gave me exercises and they helped but I have researched and started targeting the supraspinatus. I am exercising almost daily but taking it slow and steady.
I haven't been back to see my sports medicine specialist - honestly- because I am scared he will give me an injection in my joint and I dont think I can even consider that!
I haven't been on any antibiotics in the past 5 years and dont take any medications- just vitamins. (I am 42 yrs old and active)
I have noticed that my humerus head seems to stick out quite a bit in some exercises or movements.
I am working hard to keep proper posture and hold it in the right place but that makes me a bit nervous. Any exercises I can do to strengthen the cuff so it holds the humerus head better?
Thanks again!
Carla
Dec 29, 2009 Rating
PART 3 - H1N1 Shot Immediately Followed By Pain And Muscle Weakness by: The Tendonitis Expert
Joshua Comments:
Hi Carla.
1. So....say a little more about the humerous head sticking out more, and the shoulder being lax.
Ligaments should be holding it in place....
Weak muscles makes sense, but (to clarify) are you saying that your arm is coming out of socket?
Or is it just 'more loose' because of muscle weakness?
2. Yeah, I wouldn't want a shot in there either. Plus, a corticosteroid shot wouldn't help you at all.....-maybe- it would decrease pain, but it certainly wouldn't fix anything or help your nervous/immune system deal with the invaders it is/was responding to.
3. Exercise and strengthening and posture awareness is good. Increasing your water intake is good. Massage and icing are good.
And unless an actual nerve was pierced/severed I -suspect- that this is one of those things that really will just take some time to get back to normal.
Your body received foreign material. Your body did not like that. There could be some toxic kind of damage. There could be just some overwhelming response by your body that looks like the symptoms you have.
Your physio is baffled because you don't have a 'physical' injury. You are dealing with a nervous/immune system response.
You don't need to heal so much as the system needs to start working properly, if that makes sense.
Like I said, there are some lab tests you could do to see exactly where your body is at on a variety of markerers, and if you have the money and inclination to do so, great. Could be some nutrient issue, some detox issue, some muscle energy production issue, at play that may/may not speed up your recovery if dealt with.
And, my prediction is that you will slowly recover as your body does its thing. Thankfully, I don't think this is the same kind of thing as Levaquin Tendonitis.
Oh, and did I say Vitamin D? If you don't know what your levels are, find out. Vitamin D is a huge player in immune system health.
So, I'm not sure how what I just said will come across. Let me know how all that sounds to you, and if you have any questions.
Apr 12, 2010 Rating
same symptoms by: Janet
I, like Carla, have had pain in the site and beyond, where I had the H1N1 shot in November.
Although there was some immediate pain at the site of the injection right from the start, the real pain began about January and is no better now in April.
Sometimes it just throbs and other times I do something with my arm, such as putting it through my sleeve, and I can barely stand the pain which lasts for maybe 20 seconds and then subsides.
The doctor thinks the muscle was bruised with the shot and that it will take a long time to heal.
I'm not sure about massage but ice seems to help a bit.
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Joshua Comments:
If it's actually -just- bruised (needle punctured artery/vein, blood leaked out) then self massage and ice will create circulatory turn over, old stuff out, new stuff in, and make the 'healing' faster.
