Part 2 - I'm a football player and I have Jumper's knee or tendonitis in my knee. by: Tony
1. It hurts right in the middle of my knee right under the knee cap.
2. It mostly hurts when I'm doing active things like running jumping and right after the activities. It even hurts when I'm squatting weight or when i drive or just try to get up from sitting down.
3. It's both my knees.
4. I'm pretty big i weigh 225 and i played running back and linebacker in high school but i got recruited to play only linebacker in college.
5. No not really just training for the upcoming season. I don't do any other activities but train for football.
6. Well i haven't been doing any sprinting jumping or any on field work because I've been going therapy for my knees. They told me not to do any of that. I've just been in the weight room for over two months and they don't seem like they've gotten any better. I have to start back training on the field again at least by the middle of June because my football camp starts in August. I can't go up there big slow and out of shape u know??
7. I've had knee tendonitis for like two years now and it has gotten worse over the years.
8. Every doctor or chiropractor I've been to has said it's tendonitis.
Apr 16, 2009 Rating
Part 3 - I'm a football player and I have Jumper's knee or tendonitis in my knee. by: The Tendonitis Expert
1. It hurts right in the middle of my knee right under the knee cap.
Sounds like Tendonitis of the Patella tendon. Has any doctor or anybody doing therapy on you given it a name?
2. It even hurts when I'm squatting weight or when i drive or just try to get up from sitting down.
It definitely makes sense that it would hurt when squatting. And driving and rising from the seated position too.
3. It's both my knees.
Ok.
6. Well i haven't been doing any sprinting jumping or any on field work because I've been going therapy for my knees. They told me not to do any of that. .......I can't go up there big slow and out of shape u know??
Yeah, I know! It's late, tell me again, what are they having you do/telling you to do for therapy or self care at home? And, are you doing it?
7. I've had knee tendonitis for like two years now and it has gotten worse over the years.
Makes sense.
8. Every doctor or chiropractor I've been to has said it's tendonitis.
And apparently hasn't been able to do anything for you.
So.... let's see.
Hurting progressively for two years, you're what...18 years old?
A couple more questions to answer and then I'll tell you some stuff to do.
1. What does your nutritional intake look like. What would you say a day's worth of eating looks like for you? Chicken and vegetables, or Burger King and grilled cheese? I'm just looking for your protein and nutrient intake. Calories too.
2. Do your knees squeak at all when you bend them a little/straighten them a little?
3. Have the doctor's called it by a name other than just 'tendonitis'?
4. If I already asked this, don't answer. What are you doing for therapy and self care at home, and are you doing it?
You're a big kid with a lot of muscle, and a lot of activity that puts strain on that patella. I can show you how to eliminate the tendonitis and pain. And tell you some things to do to help keep it from coming back.
And, it may be that you will have to constantly do the self care to keep the pain away and the knee tendon healthy due to the heavy strain you provide it. It won't take much time to do, but you might need to do it regularly.
Joshua
Apr 23, 2009 Rating
PART 4 - I'm a football player and i have jumper's knee or tendonitis in my knee!!! by: Tony P.
1. I EAT CHICKEN AND VEGETABLES FOR DINNER BUT THROUGHOUT THE DAY I MOSTLY EAT FAST FOOD.
2. NAW THEY DONT SQUEAK.
3. YEAH JUMPER'S KNEE
4. I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING AT HOME BUT I GO TO THE CHIROPRACTOR LIKE 3 TIMES A WEEK. THEY ULTRASOUND MY KNEE, LASER, PROCUSSER, AND STIM.
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Joshua Answers:
Ok, so here's what I recommend.
1. Stop the fast food, specifically because it does not deliver the nutrition that an athlete of your caliber needs.
I promise you that you are protein deficient, which means that you don't have the necessary intake of protein building blocks to keep your muscle and tendon strong.
Your youth will only take you so far. If you want to be a top level athlete, or even an ok athlete but injury free, you -have- to increase your protein intake.
It's possible that that is all you need for your patella tendon to heal. I've seen cases where after months of chronic tendonitis pain, after a few days of upping the intake or protein, the pain went away. Because the body finally had the material it needed to fix the structure.
Good protein sources: red meat, chicken, fish like canned tuna fish, cottage cheese, eggs and/or egg whites.
Fast food just doesn't have the quality nutrients that your machine needs to thrive. Chicken fast food maybe gets you enough protein, burgers and fries definitely not.
2. Start doing self care at home. For at least a week, ice pack at home, and get an ice cube and grind (gently)the hot/sharp/painful spot under the knee cap.
Do this intensively. Ice pack for 5 minutes, off for 5, back on for 5. Use the ice cube for about 5 minutes, at least 3 times/day. Break up the scar tissue and force the inflammation out.
The more the merrier. Seriously. The more you do this, the faster you will be pain free. If you stay active, you may have to keep doing it intensively for a while as you will continue to irritate the tendon while you are trying to heal.
This is really simple, but takes some work. And results are reliable.
Don't let the simplicity throw you off. While it's not fancy like at the chiropractor's office, it will actually work -if- you do it.
More protein. More icing. Stretch your quads and hamstrings.
The key is doing this yourself, at home, and intensively till the pain is gone or minimal.
Consider it a part of your workout. And as some coach somewhere said, "Nothing good comes easy."
Get to work.
Keep me updated and ask any questions that come up.
Jumpers knee hurts below my knee on and under tendon by: Anonymous
I too have this problem. But mine hurts just below my knee on and under the tendon. Im a junior and not going to college to play ball as much as id love too im just not big or stong enuf to go.
But i do want this taken care of so i can have a great senior year. I play offensive and deffensive tackle. I weigh about 235 and i train 3 times a week for about an hour or two depending on the workout. I eat well, salads, lots of protein, chicken, steak, and protein shakes.
I sprained my knee my freshmen year and again this past year. And we have been done for about 4 months. And its prgressivly gotten worce. My doctor called it jumpers knee and said i have micro tears in the tendon and possible micro fracture in the tibia under my knee.
Its only in one and hurts when doing squats (whitch ive stoped doing latly becuz the pain is unbearable and i tend to just drop the weight becuz i cant stand up) and when walking up and down stairs and in cold weather.
Any thing i can do to speed up this prossess? And to avoid a possible surgery?
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Joshua Comments:
Hi Anonymous.
Does it hurt on the outside of the joint? Meaning, it's the tendon under and/or below the patella that hurts.
Or when you can't stand up out of a squat due to the knee pain, for instance, is it deeper in the joint that hurts?
What exactly does it feel like when you're walking up and down stairs?
Apr 23, 2012 Rating
I have the same symptoms and another and its been hassling me for just about 2 years now by: Jarrett
I have been told by four physio's that I have patella tendinitis but every treatment they give me doesn't seem to work.
I have that same shape feeling just below the knee cap and all the way down the tendon which causes pain even getting out of a chair, going up and down stairs and I struggle to walk.
I am a basketball player, 17 years old, and weigh 70kg
I also feel a pain on the inside of my legs, on what I also believe is a tendon but I just dont have any knowledge on what is actually is. This pain has only been felt recently in the last 2 months. I fear this is something worse than tendinitis.
I was wondering if you can give me any other advice that can cure my pain so I can actually play some competitive basketball again.
My current rehab for Patella Tendinitis is wearing a quarter of a Nitro-Dur 5 patch which is a vasodilator, and doing 3 sets of 15 reps of a single leg progression squat....which is now being to hard to achieve.
This worked miracles within 24 hours but after a week it no longer had any effect.
Any idea's and help would be greatly appreciated.
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Joshua Comments:
A Nitro-Dur 5 patch? Really? Wow.
Not so bad in theory, on one hand, because it vaso-dilates and increases blood flow.
But NOT GOOD, in my humble opinion, because it affects your entire body.
Nitro-Dur 5 patches are also given to reduce chronic chest pain in heart disease situations...
You're an (assumably) healthy 17 year old. So hopefully it's not a problem.
But the proof is in the pudding, as they say. Clearly it wasn't a fix. The good news is that it helped, so assumably in brought new blood to the area.
But it doesn't address WHY there's not enough blood flow there in the first place.
So? WHy do you have pain? Ultimately, the primary reasons are too tight muscle and nutritional issues. That's the simple version, it is of course a lot more complex that that, but let's start there.
Actually, before we start there:
1. What exactly have you tried to make things better?
2. History of foot/ankle/leg injury, even from when you were a little kid?
3. Example of a normal daily food intake.
4. What does 'that same shape feeling' mean, exactly?
5. In detail, why can't you do the single leg squats?
Apr 26, 2012 Rating
Jarrett...continued by: Jarrett
Yes Im a healthy 17 year old/
1. What exactly have you tried to make things better?
I do foam rolling on the IT band and one leg squats. A lot of stretching of the quads and hamstrings. Ive had ultrasound and did acupuncture. I got told that my feet naturally go away from the mid-line of my body and have to wear insoles as well.
2. History of foot/ankle/leg injury, even from when you were a little kid?
The only thing that effected me when I was a kid was that when i was in under 12's I had a very bad case of osgood schlatter disease, in both knees.
In 2009 I broke me left ankle, which still has flexibility problems.
3. My dietary intake isn't very good. In the morning I have a milo, and baked beans with toast. Lunch a ham roll or two. Dinner varies between junk some nights to steak and sausages the next. I also snack on crap between meals.
4. Sorry about that, I meant ''that same sharp feeling''. I get a real strong throbbing/stabbing feeling on my patella tendon and it is sometimes unbearable.
I also get a pain on the side of my knee which I do not know what it is. It is located half way up the knee cap towards the inside of knee. ( its a small muscle or tendon...I really have no clue)
It also throbs while just sitting down in a chair and is very uncomfortable.
5. The single leg squats are just painful and I struggle to do them.
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Joshua Comments:
1. Look up 'tensor fascia latte' muscle. It is the muscle that controls the IT band. It doesn't do much good to foam roll the IT band. Let me rephrase that: work the TFL muscle. When it relaxes, it will relax the IT band.
2. Read the The ARPwave System page. It will give you an idea of how the old ankle injury affects you farther up the leg.
3. If you want to be athletic, you have to stop eating crap. More protein. More good fat. Less crap. It's like pouring sugar into a gas tank...not the best idea.
Your body needs nutrition. It seems obvious, and it is, but our brains somehow overlook the significance of it. See: Magnesium for Tendonitis
Barton has a lot of information on his website that I haven't gotten to adding yet, and it's good information. He's a great athletic trainer, and I like and trust his info.
5. Why are you doing single leg squats? They're tough and stressful on the knees, especially if you aren't doing them 'right'. And you're trying to squat over an inflexible ankle...
Also, look at the anatomy and see if that inside-the-knee pain is is the 'medial collateral ligament'.