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Orbital Tendonitis or Trochleitis?

by Laurie H.
(USA)


Can you get tendonitis in the muscles around the eyes? I read there is a trochlea tendon above the eye. I have read of conditions called "Trochleitis" and "Temporal Tendonitis".

Off and on for about 3 years, I get this uncomfortable sensation in my right eye socket & brow bone that occurs for many weeks and then goes away for a couple months. It comes and goes. My eyeball does not have any pain. Just the surrounding tissue above the eyeball.

I feel it when I touch my face. It is underneath the brow bone & at the top of my eye socket. It's a sharp nerve sensation that hurts when I either lightly touch the skin or rub the area. Often it will spread to the area above my outer eyebrow on the forehead. When I push on my brow bone, the sharp nerve sensation will travel in a straight line to the back of my skull on the same side or travel to my ear or jaw on the same side as well.

Sometimes when it gets bad, the pain will shoot to my temple area travel to the back of my head down the back of my neck on that side. Squinting my eyes will also trigger this nerve pain.

If these are real tendonitis conditions, how do you treat it with cold an ice?



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Joshua Answers:


Hi Laurie.

Yikes. That's an odd pain...

So let's just assume that you have ruled out any eye or eye socket issues (medical issues I don't know anything about, nor even what they might be named other than 'tumor').

Who knows what could be going on in there. Make sure you get 'bad' things ruled out by the appropriate doctor.


Technically one could get tendonitis in there. Inflammation and irritation.

Your pain symptoms don't match up like I would expect them to....though there's a lot of nerve in the area, and that can equal a lot of different kinds of pain.

So, it could be Tendonitis, which Trochleitis essentially is.


There are a few options I would start with.

1. Get your Vitamin D levels up. We'll cover our nutritional bases with this and #2.


2. Supplement with Magnesium for Tendonitis and B6 and B12 (methylcobalamin, not cyanocobalamin).


3. Rest a covered ice pack on the eyes for 1-2 minutes, repeat regularly. Don't let the eyes get too cold, obviously.

Not the best option in the world, but...


4. Rest your palms lightly over your eyes. Rest, relax, let the heat of your hands do it's thing.

Either that time or the next, add a little more weight. Again, rest, relax, etc.

This kind of counts as massage, but also calms the nervous sytem.


5. Depending on what happens with the Magnesium, we may have you get some magnesium oil, and rub that on the area. This can have great results, if the spasm/irritation is due to a magnesium issue.




While there may be inflammation, my sense is that icing isn't going to be the answer.

Try the above, and see what happens, and let me know, and we'll go from there if we need to.



Joshua Tucker, B.A., C.M.T.
The Tendonitis Expert
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Aug 22, 2011
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your not alone - Orbital Tendonitis or Trochleitis?
by: Anonymous

Hi laurie. The last couple days i have developed your exact symptoms. Mine is a centralized pain just above my left eye in my brow area. The only time i feel the pain is when i touch right on the spot and the pain shoots behind my eyeiioo. Otherwise there is no pain at all. Again it just popped up the last couple days and i never had it before. Very odd

Sep 01, 2011
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pain on and under right brow bone also.... -- Orbital Tendonitis or Trochleitis?
by: candy

Hi guys...I too have the exact pain on and right under my right brow. Had this for about a month now and got to the point that can't sleep in my comfortable position anymore because just the pressure of my brow area on a pillow is excruciating.

I can no longer even wash lightly over that area. Going to the doc soon being it is getting worse.

Totally know what frustration u all are going through with this and will let you know what I find out.



Nov 03, 2011
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Bull
by: Anonymous

This in not tendonitis, it's trochleitis. I have it. The solution is to use aspirin or something stronger like dolobid twice a day 500mg each. It may take a few days to feel better so hang in there. Try aspirin (not ibuprophen doesn't work as well) first and see if it relieves the pain if not get Dr. to give dolobid.

Ice won't help reduce swelling to that nerve and may even damage your eyes if not done properly. Now once your eyes feel better you have to be careful not to continue to cause damage because although pain is reduced, the damage still continues from the rubbing/fraying of the nerve.

Hope this helps.


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Joshua Comments:

Hey Guy Who Calls Bull But Won't Leave His Name.

1. Trochleitis is tendonitis. "Trochleitis is inflammation of the superior oblique tendon trochlea apparatus"

So clearly you don't know what's what and shouldn't be calling 'bull' on anything.


2. -IF- a nerve is getting rubbed and frayed, why is that happening? What is the cause? And how is Ibuprofen a fix? Oh, it's not.

How do you know there's actual damage happening? Just because there's irritation doesn't mean there's damage.

How do you even know it's a nerve issue?


3. You still have whatever is bothering you? And your only option is pharmaceuticals? And you don't know how to prevent it's return?

I don't know that you're the best person to be offering any kind of advice, since you can't fix your own issue.


4. So people shouldn't use ice for short periods, but pharmaceuticals are ok? As if they don't have any possible down sides (They do, look up the side effects of doloboid)? Come on.

Yes one can hurt your eyes by applying ice on them for too long and past any point of common sense.

So don't leave it on for too long. And make sure your eyes are closed. And if it hurts, remove it and/or use a less cold cold pack.

Easy.


5. Normally I would just delete a comment like this, but it was an opportunity to address a couple of points, and it was too fun to pass up. So thanks for that.



Jan 04, 2012
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by: Bull

My nickname is Bull - justed probably typed in wrong place, I wasn't calling bull lolll. Relax! I do realize that trochleitis involves tendonitis but it also has other symptoms that are caused by additional swelling in other areas when it gets really, really bad. I ended up with symptoms that minicked TMJ, I lost my sense of salt taste for a few days and I woke up dizzy from swelling around ears several times. I was diagnosed by an opthalmic neurologist and meds were given by a rheumatologist. I know what I'm talking about.

The ice does not help and so far, with all the treatments out there, the only thing that did help was the dolobid (diflunisal) is all that is avail now. Please don't discount a solution for this person because you took an attitude to my response. Try a strong anti-inflammatory and you will get relief.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Bull.

Yeah, that's kind of funny.

Here's my beef.

There's a difference between 'solution' and 'relief'.

If a person wants to take an anti-inflammatory or pharmaceutical to get them through the day, great. They should.

But if it's not a fix, it's not a solution. It's at best a band-aid.

When someone offers a band-aid as a solution (whether it's a doctor or a doctor's patient that still has pain/problem, I don't get offended, but I do point out the difference. It's an important difference.

If the eye problem isn't gone and you have to take meds to keep it away, you have not found a solution.

Maybe it's semantics, but it is my humble opinion that accuracy is pretty important when it comes to health care.

And don't get me wrong. I'm ALL FOR you trying to help. I very much appreciate that quality in people.


In your case specifically, how did the doctor determine that your nerve is getting damaged?






Jan 09, 2012
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Trochelitis in both eyes for over two years
by: Anonymous

I have been suffering from trochelitis in both of my eyes for over two years. My left eye is worse than my right. I am currently seeing an eye doctor in Houston, Texas who is one of the few docs in the country who treat this condition.

Most eye docs haven't even heard of this condition. She performs eye scans on me periodically to measure the inflammation with an ulrasound-like machine. She has me on oral predizone and, so far, that has worked for me.

I am tappering off of it slowly. She recommends oral Prednizone before the shot.



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