By Joshua Tucker

How to Avoid Degradation in a Possible Levaquin Tendon Injury

by Karen
(Chicago area)

I was prescribed 500 mg/day of Levaquine for both a UTI and Upper Respiratory infection in November of 2007.

By the 3rd day of taking the prescription I was in bed with terrible nausea and a severe headache (both common side effects of Levaquine).

I phoned the doctor and he had me stop the Levaquine and I believe I was switched to a Z-pack.

Since that time, I have had periodic pain in the upper front of my hip. It usually follows moderate exercise, such as playing tennis.

Until recently the pain would be gone within a day or 2, but now I am on day 8 of pain following an hour of tennis. I am walking with a limp to put less weight on my injured leg. (Which, by the way, I never injured on the tennis courts.)

It has been getting a little better, but after reading your conversation David T. Fuller, I'm concerned that I may be just at the beginning of a lifelong problem that will just get worse.

Has it been confirmed that Levaquine-related tendon injuries do degrade the tendon over time, or cause a permanent change in DNA?

Does a person with this Levaquine-induced condition have to just greatly reduce or minimize physical activity to avoid the condition worsening? And have Levaquine users found success with the beef broth, magnesium and ice?



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Joshua Answers:

Hi Karen. You didn't click the box and enter your email to get notification of this response, so I hope you find it....

So either you have a non-Levaquin related tendon/muscle Pain Causing Dynamic that just happened to show up coincidentally, (regular tendonitis issues usually progress and get worse, nothing surprising there), or you have Levaquin Tendonitis that just happened to for some unknown reason show up at the front of your hip.

The rest of this is responding to the Levaquin side of things.


Has it been confirmed that Levaquine-related tendon injuries do degrade the tendon over time, or cause a permanent change in DNA?

From what I've seen, it's not that floroquinolone cytotoxicity damages tendon over time, it's that the one time influx of toxicity and the body's response/interaction with it does some kind of long term, lasting damage.

Science doesn't seem to agree on why exactly that is. DNA damage has been found, and it's probably the best theory for why tendon and other connective tissue doesn't heal very well. Something in the healing is flawed.

In other words, there's no 'for sure' answer as to the cause yet.


Does a person with this Levaquine-induced condition have to just greatly reduce or minimize physical activity to avoid the condition worsening?

There's a catch-22 there. If you exercise too much, the tendon gets irritated and hurts you. If you don't exercise at all, overall your body becomes less healthy and less able to deal with the continual dynamic of Levaquin damage.



And, it depends on your exact situation. Some people shred their tendons just by standing up out of a chair. Some people just have pain and have to moderate their mobility, or learn to push it just right.

It depends on how 'fragile' your structure is.


And have Levaquine users found success with the beef broth, magnesium and ice?

Honestly, I haven't heard back.

Ice will reduce pain and get new blood and nutrition to damaged areas, if you do it enough (it's a learning process). But it's not a cure and won't reverse the problem.

Magnesium -should- help with muscle tightness and pain and help a person sleep, if one takes enough to get one's levels up.

And while Magnesium bonds to the Levaquin and prevent it from working, it looks like all active aspects of Levaquin are out of the body in three days. Still, were it me I'd get my Magnesium levels up anyway, because it's healthy for you and on the off chance it will bind any still active ingredients lurking and causing problems.

The Bone Broth is full of nutrients your tendons and body need.

Flooding your body with good nutrients can't hurt and can only help.

The problem with Levaquin Tendonitis is that A. Nobody knows and B. Everybody's reaction and interaction with Levaquin is different. Some are worse off than others.

But there are common (unknown at this point) elements. These common elements will, I predict, eventually be found and explain why some people get damage and different amounts of it, and some don't.

In the interest of finding -exactly- where the body is deficient (the best common element theory I've seen so far), and seeing if those deficiencies, if accurately supplemented, can get the body working well enough to overcome Levaquin's ongoing damage, I recommend the test at the bottom of this page: Levaquin Tendonitis Treatment

I have a page of suggestions for overall support that are worth trying. And, for targeted assessment of various markers in the body and how your body is working (detoxifying, creating cell energy, etc) I hope people will get the test.
I believe that it's worth it.


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Mar 22, 2013
Results of Levaquin Tendonitis Solution
by: Karen E.

My husband was severely damaged by Ciprofloxacin. he had tendonitis in both shoulders, and upper arms, a torn rotator cuff, pain in his knees and also got the pain in his eyes along with snowy floaters.

He had been on 500 mg. twice a day for a month at a time. Supposedly for a prostate infection. Over a period of 3 years or so, he had this given to him 3 times for a month each time...That is about 120,000 mg. of Cipro at 30,000 mg. per mo.

He had to give up golf, bowling, and work. He thought this was going to be his fate till he died.

The pain was awful, he could barely get out of bed, because it hurt his arms so badly.

We followed your protocol, it took a while, but he is back to pretty much normal...His eyes took a while, they put him on Pred Forte, but it kept coming right back..They said it was Iritis, but it came at the same time as the tendonitis. He stayed on a preventative dose for a while and it finally cleared up.

We wish everyone with this antibiotic poisoning, would learn about your site and follow your protocol...the doctors of course, for the most part do not believe that their prescription had anything to do with something that he just woke up one day with and got worse over time, till he started the protocol. He didn't injure himself, he was damaged at the cellular level by these antibiotics.

So thank you, it really works. And I asked the surgeon that was going to repair the rotator cuff, if cutting into him wouldn't be doing more damage to his shoulder and after listening to me about what caused it, he said "YES" and he was worried, because he was on Cipro at the time we were telling him our story...I said "Good Luck!" you better investigate and get off it...

So no surgery, and he is doing just fine, and is back to work, bowling golfing, yard work...all things he couldn't do about a year or so ago...It did take a few months to really start to see a turn around, but we stuck with the protocol, so
THANK YOU to you and Kerri!!!!!



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Joshua Comments:

I'm glad that surgeon listened to you and used his common sense to say 'no'. Instead of forging onward out of habit and hubris.

We need more doctors like that, willing to listen and educate themselves (and use their common sense).

So that's great Karen, that your husband has done the work necessary to give his body a greater and faster chance to recover.

The cytoxic effects and ramifications of Levaquin, Cipro, Levofloxacin, Avelox, etc can be reversed and healed. Obviously, the worse a person has been affected, the more time and attention is required for the body to do what needs to be done.

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Mar 23, 2013
Joshua Comments on - Results of Levaquin Tendonitis Solution
by: The Tendonitis Expert

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I hope more people find out about us too. I see too many people on forums etc complaining that their doctors are no help and nothing they've tried so far has helped. Unfortunately, doctors don't know what's going on (and for whatever reason won't look into it), and if a person doesn't try the RIGHT things, there's not much hope of the wrong things helping much if at all.

Feel free to share a link to this page or the name of the site when you're out and about on the internet.


And THANK YOU for helping your husband find and take action to get his health and life back towards where he wants it to be.

That's a great feeling for me, knowing I've helped him get that benefit.





Apr 02, 2013
Dancers/Athletes on Levaquin
by: Anonymous

Thank you for this page. I had been searching for what to do while healing from a serious infection. I had avoided taking this course of antibiotics unless necessary due to the tendon toxicity because as a ballet dancer and runner with frequently tight calves and ankle problems I fear the inevitable.

What can I do now during this antibiotic course to minimize the damage? Are there particular suppliments and stretches? What should I avoid? What can I do once I am back to my regular activities?


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Joshua Comments:

Why are you taking Levaquin?

Do you have any side effects from it at the moment? New tightness, ache, muscle/tendon/ligament pain, anxiety/claustrophobia/mental fog, etc?



Apr 02, 2013
RE: Dancer
by: Anonymous

Pneumonia. Thus far nothing obvious. My ribs hurt presumably from coughing. I'm mostly interested in recovering safely from my illness but not incur career-ending injury.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Dancer.

You may want to talk with your doctor and switch to a different antibiotic.

Pneumonia is not good news, but the side effects of Levaquin can end your career if you get side effects.

Levaquin depletes magnesium from the body, thus many of the side effects.

I'd tell you to take magnesium to help counter any side effects, but that will also counter the effectiveness of the Levaquin vs. the pneumonia (which I assume the doctors tested to make sure it was bacterial and not viral).

So it's either go on Magnesium and off Levaquin, or stay on Levaquin, because there's no sense in taking Levaquin if you're simultaneously taking Magnesium.

(Test your doctor to see if s/he knows that).



Aug 08, 2013
Runner No More
by: Tony

Took levaquin for pnuemonia im 58yrs old 50 mile per week runner first run after meds severe calf and achille pain.

At 1 mile mark next try same results also foot pain constantly for no reason never had any pain even after long runs of 15 miles now have stopped running and try to get through day any solutions its been 2 months


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Tony.

Tips and tricks and suggestions just aren't going to do it for a Levaquin issue. ESPECIALLY if you want to get back to running.

My recommendation is to learn as much as you can about Levaquin and it's affects on the body. Or at least, learn what you need to know to give yourself the best opportunity to recover (as you'll learn in The Levaquin Tendonitis Solution).

Until your body repletes the nutritional depletion caused by Levaquin, avoiding running is probably a smart thing to do.


Give a more detailed description of your symptoms and history of symptoms, and what if anything you've tried for it so far.




Related: Runner athlete to couch potato after cipro caused achilles and hip pain



May 01, 2014
help
by: Alex

i have taking 1 pill of levquin out of a 10 day dose i began feeling a weird sensation in my achillies just a little strange i was taught as a kid to listen to my body by my mom so i quit taking anymore and my achillies feel light as if nothing there and when i try to walk i sometimes feel stinging.

I am very afraid of permanent damage I'm 24 years old and live in new york i told my doc what i was feeling he said stay off it for 2 to 3 weeks and i should be fine I'm taking new anti biotic so i had to stop my magnesium intake.

I had a bit of broth and haven't iced yet its been bout 2 to 3 days since i took it plz i am terrified of achillies rupture.

I'm an entertainer and can't afford something like that to happen i would lose everything.

plz help thank you for reading.

i hope i hear from you i can't explain how terrified i am at the thought of losing my dream.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Alex.

Well, of course, you have to listen to your doctor....

But Levaquin depletes magnesium and that's a huge factor in the mechanism of how levaquin causes side effects.

What are you taking antibiotics for? Is it for sure a bacterial issue?



May 02, 2014
continued by Alex
by: alex

Yes i had a uti kidney infection ill be on this antibiotic for bout 6 more days i honestly cried my self to sleep i no that sounds childish but it just feels after all the stories that this feeling of dread will nor go away that at some point in a month or two i will lose my life which is honestly dancing and acting.

I don't want to wake up everyday with the fear of it rupturing but no will tell me if it will ever go away if i will be like this for the rest of my life or if i can fix wat has happened all i get are you are young we worry about that in old patients but it doesn't matter when it comes to chemicals they don't discriminate.

I can't lose everything plz how do i fix this whatever i have to do ill do it i want to better understand how to fight back. thank you so much for answering by the way and the pain is in my heel everyone in a while like a dull sting.

Forgot to say the anti is macro bid he told me magnesium stops the medicine so i should not be taking it i can resume after it is done?


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Joshua Comments:

Last I heard you're just not supposed to take Magnesium in a 3 hour window after taking the antibiotic.

You'll need to make those choices for yourself. Talk to your doctor, educate yourself online, etc.

Aside from the overall mental effect and magnesium reduction caused by pain and mental stress, magnesium insufficiency/deficiency side effects include anxiety, fear, depression, etc.

You need to make your immune system stronger. There's a reason you A. got a kidney infection and B. your body couldn't beat the kidney infection.

Antibiotics aren't a miracle drug, in that they have negative impact on your body, including decrease in the health of your immune function, decreased gut health, etc.

You can look into d-mannose for bladder infection (if that's involved). It's a natural and very effective bladder infection 'fixer'.

See related D-mannose article.

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