Jumpers Knee Solutions?

by Durome
(Nottingaham, England)

Is this pain in the knee from Jumpers Knee?

Is this pain in the knee from Jumpers Knee?

Hi, it's Durome.

* The knee pain I endure is shooting pain mixed with aching and limited movement. This is just on normal days but mostly after a match or training session of basketball, its all too frequent because I train a lot so maybe 4-5 days a week.

* The pain is right under the cap of my knee like right on the joint of the end of my knee leading into my lower leg (see image provided)

* I went to a physiotherapist through the doctors but it was more "Oh your glutes seem a lil weak".

After a few poking n prodding, given an exercise and sent home.

So because I play basketball I go to the gym and do a lot of leg work outs i.e. Leg Press, Leg Curl, Squats, Lunges with weights and Calf Raises.

* I'm 20 turning 21 I'm approx 6ft6/6ft7 and weigh about 88kg.

* I have had this for a while now and I would really like to sort it so I can become more efficient at basketball.

Thank you for your time to read this it means a lot.


Joshua Answers:

Hi Durome.

Thanks for the info.

That physio sure didn't sound helpful. At all.


1. You're 20, possibly still doing a little bit of growing. That can leave the body a little wonky. Even if you are done growing, it can take a good long while for the body to make all the adjustments after growing. 6'7" took a lot of growing to achieve.

2. You use your body and legs and knees a lot, obviously.

Usually athletes lift and run a lot, but spend about 3 minutes stretching. If you want to thrive and succeed in the sports world, you need to start spending 30 minutes a day stretching your hips, glutes, adductors, hamstrings, and quads.

If adductors, hamstrings, and quads aren't appropriately lengthened and balanced, it will pull funny on the knee, affect your stride, etc.

I can't really help you there, but for this conversation, stretch your quads. A lot.

If they are tight, they put constant tension and strain on the tendons that they connect to. Even when you sleep.

You want to stretch not just to lengthen muscle, but also to keep connective tissue loose and mobile. Otherwise, everything just starts shrinking down, which
is tough on the body.

3. You could have Patella Tendonitis. That makes sense with your activities and the picture. That's hamstrings and quads too tight, to start with.

The top arrow is pointing close to the Medial Meniscus. I was off my knee for 2 months once because I bruised/ground up my meniscus. Doesn't really sound like you have that happening.

4. Maybe you have actual tendon wear and tear damage, maybe you just have irritation and inflammation.

5. The Western diet sucks. It's safe to say that you need some bone and connective tissue support.

Plus, I'm making the assumption that since you're 20 you eat fast food and drink soda. Correct me if that's accurate.

Regardless, I suggest you start using this recipe. Essential Bone Broth

This will make your bones and connective tissue strong. I'm going to make a webpage talking all about it in the next few days.

You can put the broth over rice, throw in some vegetables and various kinds of meat to make soup or stew, fry up some eggs in it.

It is the raw materials your body needs. And if you want to be an athlete, you need a strong structure that can withstand and thrive with your activity.

6. So tell me more about the pain.
Please describe the shooting, ache, and limited mobility in more detail.

Also, does your knee squeak (sometimes) when you bend/straighten it?

7. Are you doing anything for it now, as far as self care to help it?

8. Also, why do you think it's knee tendonitis, as opposed to anything else?

9. If you feel around the area, and maybe dig in a little bit, is it a general pain, or can you find specific big or small spots of sharp/significant pain?

Joshua Tucker, B.A., C.M.T.
The Tendonitis Expert

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May 28, 2009
PART 2 - Jumper's Knee Solutions?
by: Durome

Hello Joshua.

I'll number my responses in contrast to the number of the question you asked me, so I can make this quick for you.

4. If it is wear and tear damage what can I do to rectify this?

5. I have had eating problems in the past due to other issues like my body going out of sync with my biological clock, aside from that I stay away from fast food and soda's I prefer more healthy meals and juice. I do endulge in a takeaway once in a while.

6. The pain is much like if you stripped away the skin and someone got a hot broad needle and poked you with it, thats generally whilst jumping or playing basketball and continues after. The next day the aching is there and just feels sore and tight.

What I mean by limited movement is like I kinda have to hobble or put a hop in my step to relieve pressure off the knee. Yes there is a squeaking sometimes.

7. I'm taking glucostamine 1000mg tablets, I ice my knees after games and stretch if the pain isnt overwhelming. I also go to the gym and do leg work, I read some of your comments to general public so I took info from that and started ice massaging my knee.

8. I think its knee tendonitis because of all the sympotoms i cant think of it being anything else at all, I have never had leg injuries or anything or back issues.

9. Specific pain but in a broad area (in contrast to the circumference of the knee)

Additional comment I have super tight hips could this be a reason? and also Is there a link to maybe a website with the best stretches to those specfic areas: adductors, glutes etc

I know stretches but they may not be the most efficient if you see what i mean.

Well I look forward to hearing from you Joshua.

May 29, 2009
Part 3 - Jumpers Knee Solutions?
by: The Tendonitis Expert

Hey Durome.

Thanks for the info.

4. I'll get back to this.

5. Ok good.

Please say more about eating problems that were associated with sleep cycle.

6. That sharp burning pain is from the pain enhancing chemical that the Inflammation Response is flooding the area with.

7. Glucosamine good. The bone broth I mentioned, even better. Read that page if you haven't.

8. Ok.

9. I did just find a good site. I'm going to stall you for a couple days while I investigate it deeper and interview the site owner.

Ok, #4, what do you do about all this?

There are a couple aspects to most knee tendonitis.

The first is damage and/or the Inflammation Process.

The second is muscle im/balance that affects the knee. This includes hips.

I have to admit, I'm an expert for dealing with actual damage but not an expert on the muscle balance aspect.

I don't know that you have any actual damage. You can have all the pain, with no damage. And, you might have some damage, but my sense is that it's minimal.

So I'll talk about that, and as per #9, I think I found a resource for you that is perfect for the balance work that you need. Stay tuned, let me make sure it's quality.

As to the immediate pain.

1. Chow down on that Bone Broth. Seriously. I can't stress this enough.

2. Ice like crazy. Ice Massage, and Ice Pack.

Ice Pack 10 minutes on, 15 off. If you can, alternate heat and cold. I trust you have read the Inflammation page on here so I won't repeat any of that.

Ice Massage and dig into all the area. Follow with heat. The Patella is a big chunk of tendon, and it doesn't have a direct blood supply, so you need to get blood to it by applying heat, and/or rubbing/massaging the area.

3. Fr now, instead of stretching, I would rather you spend that dime self-massaging your quads, adductors and hamstrings. Just give it all a squeeze-squeeze-squeeze for about 60 seconds every 30 minutes. Do this all day, as often as you can remember.

The cumulative effect will be better than stretching.

That's a little bit of a mixed message, but just go with it for now.

First things first. Ice like a crazy man.


Jun 05, 2009
PART 4 - Jumpers Knee Solutions?
by: The Tendonitis Expert

Hey Durome, back again.


1. Have you been icing the kneed like a crazy person. Constant, and often throughout the day?

2. It's an odd suggestion, but for your squeaky knee, get some peanut oil, and slather it on a couple times a day.

Wear shorts, don't let it get onto fabric (it goes rancid after a certain amount of time and stinks and is hard to get out of fabric).

Somewhere in my late teens/early twenties, I had a painful squeaky knee. An acupuncturist told me to put peanut oil on my knee.

I never in a million years would have thought that that would work, but sure enough, after a couple of times of putting it on, my knee stopped squeaking.

Our skin absorbs. Apparently it absorbs enough to lube up your patella.

Coconut oil, or any other oil, really, might work, but I can only vouch for peanut oil.

3. As far as suggestions for your knee pain. I think you have more of a 'muscle balance' cause of pain that is leading to problems, as opposed to just getting Tendonitis of the knee tendon(s).

I don't deal much with the balance side of things with knees, so I'm going to point you to www.sports-injury-info.com

You may want to spend a little bit and get this ebook about hip tightness and muscle balance. It's not for Meniscus tear per se, but it's about hip tightness and muscle balance etc that causes problem in the knee.

He has a lot of information on his website that I haven't gotten to adding yet, and it's good information. So that will save us both a lot of time and get your results faster.

I don't have a financial stake in sending you to that site, and his Patella Femoral Solutions ebook is probably just what you're looking for.

My point is, you can get faster and better help from Bart, he's already put all that work into his content. I'm not brushing you off, you'll get faster and more complete answers for your specific complaints there.

What I can say for sure is, Ice like crazy. Peanut oil.

If you have actual damage, I can help with that. If you have pain from imbalance and alignment strain, let's get that taken care of first.

Feel free to ask me questions about whatever you find there, and keep me updated.


Jun 12, 2009
by: Durome

Ok, Thanks a bunch Joshua.

I'll see what his information is like and see how fast the benefits work, and the peanut oil haha I'll give it a try.

Thanks for everything I'll be in touch.



Joshua Comments:

Yeah, the peanut oil thing really amazed me 19 years ago, but it made the squeak in my knee go away in a day or two.

Jan 01, 2011
Hips, ankles then knees -- Jumpers Knee Solutions?
by: Leigh

As the knees is such a simple hinge joint compared to the complex movements designed for in the hips as part of the whole pelvis, and ankles also, correcting problems in these can often allow the knees to normalize themselves ... But as the nerve supply for the knees comes from more the mid back area then this area may well need attention also.

However the actual knee joint can in fact sort of get stuck in one part especially after a fall onto the knee so it too needs checking and correcting.

Funnily a good exercise for injured knees is backwards cycling as well as forwards as this allows the internal knee components to sort of massage and realign themselves. Best done on an exercise bike btw !

This is from from experience and learning as a chiro. Best wishes!


Joshua Comments:

Thanks Leigh!

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