Tendonitis for 6 months, as a teenager. Can't workout properly and therefore can't be happy. Depressed.

by Ben

Hey Joshua, I've had Tendonitis for almost 6 months now, I'm 18 years old , and 6 months ago, at the gym I tried doing a bicep curl with a straight bar that was tied to the ground and unfortunately kept going while I was in pain. This has caused me to hurt my wrists and basically prevent me from doing any physical activity, as I am scared to injure myself again.


I've went to several doctors. None of them seem to help me. I'm at a loss.

Both my wrists are popping in the ulnar side right where the wrist connects near the pinky and my left wrist hurts when I touch the "TFCC" or that area, not sure if that means anything.... Anyway, I've been reading a lot on your site, been taking B6, Curcumin, sometimes Magnesium, but I stopped as I am not doing any work so my muscles shouldn't be tight (right?).

Basically, as I said, I have no idea what to do. I really want to go back to working out and doing sports. It's honestly something that makes me happy. Would love for help. Thank you so much anyway.

Also, my left hand where the wrist connects near the "TFCC" area is a bit swollen. Not sure if it relates but would also love help with that.



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Joshua Answers:

1. "but I stopped as I am not doing any work so my muscles shouldn't be tight (right?)."

Totally not right. :) I say that with a smile, but still, totally not right.

We presume our muscles go back to a fully restful state when not using them, when sleeping, etc...but....when things get tight the brain resets the baseline...so tight becomes the new norm, and you stay too tight because that's the new 'loose and relaxed'.

The brain is really brilliant in some ways...and pretty stupid in some ways. This is one of those ways.


2. "I've went to several doctors. None of them seem to help me. I'm at a loss."

If it's any consolation, so are your doctors. They just don't know what's going on in a scenario like this. Gunshots, yes. Car crashes, yes. Something subtle like tendonitis symptoms? Complete mystery.

It's not their fault, they just have no training in it, and the standard
of care training they do get....it's....lacking.

What they are at fault for is not spending 5 minutes trying to figure it out. This stuff isn't rocket science, it's just the bare bones basics of how the body works (or doesn't work, as the case may be).


3. Give Magnesium For Tendonitis another read.

4. Read Pain Causing Dynamic.

5. See: 14 Year Old With Weird Wrist Pain Either Carpal Tunnel Or Tendonitis.

See: 14 Year Old With Achilles Tendonitis Can't Get Rid Of It.

See: Aching And Painful Wrists Since Age 14.

I just picked some posts with '14 year old' in them, to make the point that tendonitis is showing up earlier and earlier. Teenagers are getting it.

And for good reason. You've grown up with terrible low nutrition diets. Plus rarely go outside (less sunshine and other outdoor active benefits). So your bodies aren't as strong and resilient as the could be/should be.

So your bodies aren't working as well, can't recover as well, so you're 17 and can't handle relatively easy activity at a gym.

You don't have a disease or whatever, you're just driving down the road with an oil tank that's 3/4 empty. Engine's just not going to run as well as you might want it to, certainly not as well as you'd expect it to...but in actuality probably running a lot better than it should be.


6. Tendonitis is tendonitis no matter where it shows up. It's a dynamic made up of multiple factors. There's some variety to it and some different flavors, but it's all the same, and there's very little mystery to it.

See: What Is Tendonitis?

You have some swelling at the TFCC, that's a particular flavor of your scenario. I wouldn't focus on it, I'd focus on the larger ecology that is resulting in specific things you notice.




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by: Ben

So, okay. I've been taking Magnesium again, alongside B6 alongside the Curcumin.

Also, nutrition wise, I've been always a fully-aware active teen. I've been watching what I eat and paying close attention to my nutrition ever since I was 12-ish (now 18).

Now, I'm just at a loss and have no idea what to do, how to continue. Should I keep working out if it hurts?, Should I stretch?, Should I see another doctor?, Do I go back to working out normally even though it hurts? I have no idea what to do. Just need an advice I guess from an expert..

My love for sports is truly incredible. I love moving, doing any activity and can't do anything that I love while I have "tendonitis"... So I guess I'm just looking for an advice. I truly appreciate your time Joshua.

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Joshua Comments:

Hi Ben.

"I've been always a fully-aware active teen. I've been watching what I eat and paying close attention to my nutrition ever since I was 12-ish (now 18). "

What does that mean, exactly? What do you eat?


"Should I see another doctor?"

You've already seen doctors, yes? And that wasn't helpful. Might be worth seeing different doctors until
you get one that might have a clue about what you have going on...


"I've been taking Magnesium again"

How much? And it's only been like a week....keep at it.



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by: Ben

"What does that mean, exactly? What do you eat?"

Well, I basically eat everything, but nothing with added sugar to it. So I eat fish, meats, chicken, veggies, fruits. All those good stuff.

Now about the Magnesium, I'm taking 400 mg of Magnesium 3 times a day. (2 in the morning, 1 in the evening) So a total of 1200 mg. Still going to keep taking it, since I haven't seen any significant improvement with the curcumin I might stop taking it. (Took 3000 mg for about a month).

Anyhow, I'm still not sure what causes the dynamic of my tendonitis and why I can't properly heal and It's driving me crazy. Would honestly love advice about working out and how to continue. (If I can keep working out, should I do stuff that hurt?, should I even work out?)

Thank you so much for your time Joshua.

Kind regards,
Ben.


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Joshua Comments:

Is your magnesium 400mg per pill or 400mg per serving size?

What kind of magnesium (the word after 'magnesium').


"I'm still not sure what causes the dynamic of my tendonitis "

The dynamic is made up of three factors that all work together to cause pain/problem: too tight muscle and connective tissue, inflammation process, and nutritional lack. You have to adequately/effectively take care of all the factors.




Sep 11, 2018
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by: Ben

The Magnesium I'm taking is 400 mg per pill, a serving size is 3 pills so 1200 mg.

"What kind of magnesium (the word after 'magnesium')."

It says on the package 'Magnesium Citrate'

"too tight muscle and connective tissue, inflammation process, and nutritional lack. "

I am taking care of all those in order to try and get rid of my tendonitis. In order for my muscles not to be too tight and my connective tissue + the inflammation process what do I do? My nutrition so far is proper, I'm taking Magnesium, B6, enough Protein etc. Now all those should take care of all the inflammation and tight muscles and therefore heal my Tendonitis (Or so I thought), And no matter what I'm doing for the past 6 months, It seems like I'm at a loss.

I truly appreciate your time Joshua.

Kind regards,
Ben.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Ben.

Humor me. What is the product/brand name of the magnesium? I want to look at the ingredients label.



Sep 12, 2018
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by: Anonymous

The brand of the magnesium is "Now foods"


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Joshua Comments:

Ok. So that's 400mg per serving, and a serving is 3 pills, so each pill is 133mg.

So you haven't been taking 1200mg, you've been taking 400mg.







Sep 13, 2018
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by: Ben

You are correct~! I am terribly sorry, I must have not noticed. It is definitely my fault.

How much do you recommend I take per day, and which kind of Magnesium should I take?, Once again, sorry for my mistake.


Thank you so much for your time Joshua.
I'm honestly just trying to figure out what's wrong with me an 18 year old who should be at the top of his shape at that age, instead of depressed and "broken" without any ability of doing what I love.

Ben.


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Joshua Comments:

What's wrong with you (and I'm going a little wide here, is:)

1. Lack of nutrition. The current standard american diet (which is becoming common world wide) is short on nutrition though high on calories,

2. and all in all causes various negatives in the dopamin-seratonin seeking behaviors of the brain.

3. A lifetime of high reward behaviors (television, internet, fast carb foods, etc).

4. which also keep a person indoors resulting in lack of Vitamin D which is problematic over time, and other various downsides both physical and mental).

That was broad.

Narrowing it back down:

Lack of nutrition results in decreased physical function (resulting in pain etc) and mental function (resulting in depression etc).

Yes inability to workout, and realizing your mortality, is 'depressing', but there's a bigger thing at play there resulting in 'depression'.

Which again just goes right back to nutrition.

That's your primary focus. (if only because without it the physical mechanism can't recover)



"How much do you recommend I take per day, and which kind of Magnesium should I take?"

I don't recall, do you have one of my programs, or no?



Sep 13, 2018
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by: Ben

No, I do not have any of your programs. I guess I'm a bit skeptic that's all. Going to a few doctors and getting a negative answer what promises I get any different result from someone online? This is truly my stand and I don't mean to disrespect you, but I don't want to pay for something that might not help me and "throw" anymore of my money.

Anyhow, Nutrition deficiency. I don't know what you mean by that. As I am eating as healthy as I can not as calorie dense but very nutrition dense, I try to get my time out and get Vitamin D, and I don't spend time in-front of the "TV" all day eating fast carb foods.

My "tendonitis" was caused from 1 single exercise, which made me not be able to workout for as long as 6 months! I don't understand how is that possible and why no doctor could solve that. If my tendonitis was indeed the cause of nutrition insufficiency, why didn't it happen sooner?,

Why did my body not show signs of weakness and I was at the top peak of my shape before that? This all doesn't make any sense which just causes me more dis-belief. I am open to any idea to help me fix my body in order for me to able to do what I love. And I've tried many solutions.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Ben.

No disrespec taken, no worries.

"Why did my body not show signs of weakness and I was at the top peak of my shape before that?"

Because there's no rule that says you should show any sign of weakness before a noticeable problem is noticed.

YOu were at peak, sure, but that doesn't mean there are no negatives at work in your body systems. Nobody stays at peak forever...you may notice that people stop competitive sports etc because they can no longer perform at the peak levels they used to..even though they were 'peak' once. Point being, there's always more to the story.



"My "tendonitis" was caused from 1 single exercise".

It seems like it, yes. You felt fine, you did a thing and then you didn't feel fine. Common sense says that that's what caused the problem.
Unfortunately, again, there's always more to the story. There was a lot happening under the surface of the skin (that you don't notice) that resulted in that one exercise resulting in a noticeably bad thing.

"I don't understand how is that possible and why no doctor could solve that.

Doctors are great at gun shot wounds and car accidents. Not so great at something subtle like what you're experienceing. That doesn't mean your thing is highly complex or 'bad', it just means they have no clue.

"If my tendonitis was indeed the cause of nutrition insufficiency, why didn't it happen sooner?"

1. Nutritional insufficiency was part of the causes of the tendonitis. And tendonitis creates more insufficiency. See the links in this thread for 'what is tendonitis' and 'magnesium for tendonitis'.

2. Why didn't what happen sooner? The pain? DUe to many variables, it showed up when it showed up because things had slowly gotten bad enough to be bad enough to notice.

For some people, it first shows up as a barely noticeable symptom that slowly gets worse over time. For some they're fine one day and not fine the next.





"I am open to any idea to help me fix my body in order for me to able to do what I love. "

I appreciate skepticism. But the reality is, just like everything else in life, you have to try things out until you find something that works for you, and you learn along the way

If you are open to any idea, then I suggest you go through this thread and read the pages that it links to. If you already have, I suggest that you do it again and read with an open to any idea mind.



Sep 14, 2018
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by: Ben

Once again, thank you Joshua. For everything.

I will definitely read it once more and try to have a more open-minded approach and hopefully fix it. :)



Oct 25, 2018
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by: Ben

Okay, so I've been <.......>

I still have popping in both my wrists which is very annoying and have no idea how to fix that.

Also, my forearms really hurt if I workout, which is why I can't still workout properly... (The ECU Specifically).

Would love any more advice as I am at a loss. Thank you for your time and help Joshua, it is much needed indeed.


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Joshua Comments:

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