have golfers elbow 16 almost 17 years old (very critical)

by Alec T.
(santa barbara, california , united states)

i am a 16 year old competitive tennis player at a national level with golfers elbow, i play 5-6 days a week or more(did before tendonitis).

i played and lifted weights a lot. i have not played tennis for three months and only worked out a little. it is not getting any better i am getting desperate(will ruin my tennis scholarship).

i have read about your ice treatment and i am planning on using it but i dont understand what it does. also my dad is distinguished physical therapist and we have his ultasound machine that he can use will this help.

also i have been considering an injection but i am hesitant because i dont want to mask any problem however if i decrease inflammation would i stop the vicious cycle that you explained and my dad explained (you and my dad said the same thing) and get back to life.

do you have any suggestions beyond the ice.

Please write back


Hey there Alec.

Rest will not help you at this point, as the last three months has proven.

A corticosteroid injection -may- reduce the pain, but your Pain Causing Dynamic will not be reversed by a shot.

Maybe it will decrease inflammation in a way you mentioned your dad and I explain, but in my experience of working with people that have had the shots....they don't.

Once you have Tendonitis entrenched in your system, rest and anti-inflammatory drugs just aren't going to help how you want them to.

See: What Is Tendonitis?

Sure, everything works on a Bell Curve, and -some- people will get relief....but if you are one of those people, and keep playing tennis competitively, it will come back.

Ultrasound, in my experience, isn't likely to help your specific situation. Maybe it totally works for some people and I just end up working on the people that it doesn't help at all.

Certainly feel free to try it out. If you have access to it, use it!

I'm curious if your father has a treatment plan for you. I don't want to interfere there, and, I'm just going to interact with you like you are in my office.

I think it's great you want to learn and understand. Excellent.

Keep bugging me until
you have it straight in your head.

Here's my suggestions:

1. Get 'The Tennis Elbow Treatment That Works'

This explains the mechanism, and the activities to apply to Golfers Elbow and/or Tennis Elbow (same thing, different sides of the forearm).

It won't win me any Oscars, but if you follow the suggestions, you will get results.

This is a tool you can/will use the rest of your career to avoid being disabled by Tendonitis again, and I'll help you fine tune it for your exact needs.

It's a base of knowledge that we will work from (and will save me a lot of typing here).

2a. I bet you a dollar that your nutrition intake is not a match for your activity level.

Increase your Magnesium intake as described on my Kerri's Magnesium Dosage page.

2b. Increase your nutrient intake with Bone Broth. You can do that through other means if you want to deal with a bunch of different bottles and supplements, but it's tough to beat this food.

3. Start ice dipping now as described on the How To Reduce Inflammation page.

Understand later. And, the doing will help you understand.

In other words, take action, you will get some results experience, and then when I explain and/or you re-read the Process of Inflammation and Pain Causing Dynamic information, your brain will make the connections.

And as always, ask more questions, get more answers.

Please reply using the comment link below. Do not submit a new submission to answer/reply, it's too hard for me to find where it's supposed to go.

And, comments have a 3,000 character limit so you may have to comment twice.

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Jun 18, 2014
16 year old tennis player with agonizing foot and leg cramping due to tendonitis?
by: Jenna

Hi! My name is Jenna and I'm only 16 but for the past year and a half I have had agonizing feet and leg cramping in both of my legs. I am a runner but mostly a tennis player and it has made both things very hard because if I start cramping during a match I have to retire which breaks my heart!

So I've seen so many doctors and podiatrists and they've all suggested the usual (iron deficiency, lack of electrolytes, potassium etc) but nothing seems to help. Most recently I saw a foot specialist and he diagnosed me with tendonitis in not one but both of my feet and legs! Ouch!

He claimed the only way to be healed was to rest 6-8 weeks but for me and my lifestyle, that is absolutely impossible. He gave me orthotics that seemed to be helping then after about a month my feet got "used to them" and continued cramping. (also the cramping does NOT go away.

Once it starts it is very hard to get it to stop cramping. I've been carried off tenNis courts in the middle of matches and sent to the ER twice now and nothing happens) and I'm not sure what to do- both of my parents suffer from tendonitis, my mom used to run a bunch and now she experiences mild foot cramping and only at night and my dad has had planters facitious for almost a year. Could it be genetic? Anyway I'm just desperate for help and a cure so I don't have to worry about cramping and awful pain... But I'm out of all I'd love to know if it was REALLY tendonitis. Any advice or help would be very appreciated.

All I stretch religiously and drink TONS of water.... Living in CO and all. Thank you!!! :)



Joshua Comments:

Hi Jenna.

If you have lots of energy, it's not likely iron deficiency.

My guess is that it's not Tendonitis. I mean, it -can- be, technically, but I bet you $10 it's nutritional.

Your body doesn't have the building blocks it needs to operate optimally/properly.

I don't have much faith in doctors and nutrition. Maybe they gave you some electrolytes, etc, but it sounds to me like they tried to help you for a few minutes and left you in pain.


1. Do you know your Vitamin D level? Did they do any blood tests?

2. What exacxtly did you take, electrolyte-wise, and how much?

3. Did you take any Magnesium? If so, how much. (Humor me here, I know you didn't take it and if you did, you absolutely didn't take enough.)

4. What does your daily food intake look like?

5. There is no such thing as tendonitis 'in both feet and legs'. Your doctor is smoking crack.

6. Why exactly were you given inserts? Was something wrong found with your feet?

You have pain and cramping. That is happening for a reason.

The reason may be something weird and terrible, but it's almost certainly just a matter of getting the right nutrition into you so your body can function like it's supposed to.

Time for some therapeutic supplementation.

Answer the above, and we'll go from there.

Dec 28, 2016
by: Anonymous

I seem to have tennis elbow and the symptoms are just starting to show. Whenever i lift weights and my arm is bringing the weight towards me my left forearm up to my elbow starts hurting. It also hurts when i release the weight.

Is it that my forearm is too weak and if so are there exercices which i should do before and after workouts.

Thank you.


Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous.

No, it's more like your forearm is not functioning very well, which creates weakness and other symptoms.

I don't recommend 'exercise' as a fix because how can forcing a not-functioning-very-well structure to work more fix the lack of function?

Oct 27, 2017
safe to play with recovering from golfers elbow?
by: Shaf

1. absolutely great great resource and explanations - thanks a Million !

Great to learn that at this kind of point (some months in), rest ain't helping - aha!

in my case: 49 year old amateur, practices and plays competitively.

a) the cause is not bad technique - I know exactly wht triggered it - played 3 hrs with light & rigid racket followed by aggresive match (with my regular stick in a span of 1 week).

I've been through rice protocol; physio for 17 sessions (lazer, ultra-sound & massage by therapist), then even more rest.

today went to do Eco, and dr. said there was a small piece of calcification on the tendon (medial) at the insertion point.

right now, I CAN play but there's some little pain at beginning and end of session.


a) If I can play and tolerate the pain, is it safe to play or risk of rupture or some other damage is high ?

b) at home I'm doing every other day ultra-sound and massage and rubbing by my better half, then either Cold or Hot applied to the zone... I'm skimping on stretches and eccentric exercises... I'll add those and make a habit of that...

I'm gonna get the DVD but, what can I do more immediately ?

many thanks in advance


Joshua Comments:

Hi Shaf.

"a) If I can play and tolerate the pain, is it safe to play or risk of rupture or some other damage is high ?"

Rupture tens to show up farther down the line after the structure/mechanism gets slowly worse and worse over time. I don't know where you're at in that spectrum so can't say.

Having said that, probably you're fine to play. And, playing adds irritation and increase of dysfunction to an already irritated and dysfunctional ecology.

I'm a fan of 'fix the ecology' so the structure/mechanism will work better so you won't get damage/rupture.

Pain isn't the problem. Lack of ability to function is the problem (that causes pain and damage risk).

Said another way, it's probably fine to play right now IF and as you get to work fixing the problem. If you don't fix the problem, down the line you'll have real problems (that's the predictable path).

"b) at home I'm doing every other day ultra-sound and massage and rubbing by my better half, then either Cold or Hot applied to the zone... I'm skimping on stretches and eccentric exercises... I'll add those and make a habit of that..."

I'd get the program so you can fine tune what your'e doing, or, get more bang for your buck.

I'm not a fan of ultrasound. Hot/cold is/can be good. Stretches and eccentric exercises, fine to skip as it's very low bang for your buck due to where your ecology is at.

Massage is always good, but, can be a waste of time if the other factors are 'bad' enough. (It's best to hit all the factors at once so they all get better at once so they don't negatively affect the other factors.)

"I'm gonna get the DVD but, what can I do more immediately ?"

The program comes with the dvd and an ebook (that you get immediately). Start with that, it's fully half or more of the program.

"many thanks in advance"

You're very welcome!

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