Ice dipping question after ice dipping and getting pain from it

by Josh
(TX)

When I started ice dipping I had a great deal of constant pain in both my hands. About a week later my pain ice very minimal in comparison and has been for the last few weeks.


However, for the last week and a half or so from about the 4th time I ice dip on my hand becomes really cold and painful while I'm dipping and the pain forces me to stop about the 6th dip, and after I finish the icing my index finger becomes very painful for the next few hours.

Should I be doing anything differently?

I dip for only 10 seconds in freezing cold water.



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Joshua Answers:


Hi Josh.

Well, hmmm. That's kind of weird.

Let's investigate:

1. Age?

2. Overall health. Any health issues/problems?

3. Ever had a problem like this before with cold?

4. Do you, historically, commonly have cold hands or cold feet?


Check out this page on Raynaud's Syndrome and let me know if that sounds familiar.


It sounds like you're ice dipping 'correctly'. So if you've having a pain response like you describe, Raynaud's may be a
cuplrit.

If this is the first time you've ever experienced anything like this, that's good. There are some nutritional things we can play with to help your body deal better with the stress of cold.

So let's investigate and see what there is to see.





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Feb 17, 2010
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by: Anonymous

Age: 26

Health: Good health, Have mostly poor posture though I have been attempting to remedy that for a while. Also my hands/arms hurt. Specifically shooting pains down my first 3rd and pinky fingers and sometimes thumbs.

Previous problems like this: No, In fact since I posted this question I took a break for a couple days, and have been using aloe on my arms and hands daily. That seems to help the pain levels a tiny bit even the next day. I also notice if I ice dip and do nothing afterwards for the next 5 minutes or so til the next ice dip, the ice dipping becomes more irritating over time and after 10 or so my hands and arms don't reheat for about an hour afterwards.

However, If I use my arms for something afterwards, like massaging the painful areas my hands warm up just fine and the ice water doesn't even feel very cold

Historically cold hands and feet: Definitely. My hands and feet are often cold.

Raynaud's disease does sound close. It's usually just my hands feet and sometimes ears.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Josh.

Well of course I'm going to say use your hands some after every dip instead of not.....as that has them not hurt so much.

So if you are somewhere on the Raynaud's specturm, your body doesn't do so well dealing with the stress of cold.

Magnesium, niacin amide or inositol hexinicotinate(not regular niacin which makes you 'flush', whereas niacin amide doesn't) , B6, and Fish Oil (Omega 3's). There's also some research findings on high dose Vitamin A, but I really haven't found much information on them yet.

Fish oil for sure.


What happens if you go hot then cold, or vice versa, I wonder.
Feb 20, 2010
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by: Anonymous

I have not tried hot then cold or cold then hot yet.

I have tried to do ice massage (did it 3 times in one day (2 mins per area) and developed a rash in all the spots I massaged, and great pain for the last 4 days in my arms and hands heh, so I have went back to moisturizing and resting my hands, imobilizing them to hopefully keep the pain down until I am able to go back to ice dipping.

Would you suggest a heating pad for the hot part?

With the raynaud's theory I do have cold appendages but I haven't ever experienced any attacks like it describes in the symptoms.


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Joshua Comments:

Hot pad sure, or just run under hot water form the tap, or dip in some hot water.

There are various levels of Raynauds. At the 'lower' levels you would just call it 'cold hands and feet' and not Raynauds.

Possibly it's just how you are, possibly it the result of long term nutrient deficiency. Just all depends.

From a nutritional standpoint, I wouldn't necessarily worry about it right now, but 40 years down the road......
Mar 14, 2015
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starstarstarstarstar 		Shocking pain in hand then fiery lasting pain. This affects everything I do, what could it be.
by: Phyliss M.

I have over the last year experienced shocking pains in my fingers, like lightning bolts as I reach(not stretching) for things.

In the last 3 months this also happens even when something touches the top of my hands. I have also noticed the same pain in my feet while at work and in my knees just lounging in my bed, just the sheet touching the side of it, a fiery pain that lingers.

I work as CNA/ CMA in an Assisted Living Ctr for Seniors.

I have been diagnosed with both Raynauds Syndrome and Hypermobility/ Ligament Laxity.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Phyllis.

1. How flexible are you?
When you straighten your elbow, can you go past 'straight'?
Can you touch your thumb to your forarm?

If so, have you always been able to do that?


2. Have you always been sensitive to cold? Or is that new?

3. The 'shocking' pain is probably a combination of nutritional lack and too tight muscle/connective tissue. But answer the 1 and 2 above and we'll go from there.




See: Raynaud's Disease

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