Tendonitis Pain In Right Hand, Wrist, Top Of Hand, Knuckles, Fingers, and Forearm

by Jay L.
(Calgary, Canada)

I have had the electro tests on my nerves and they do not believe I have carpal tunnel. The doctor there told me it is more likely to be tendonitis. Does this make sense? All the sites I have researched do not show tendinitis causing pain through the hand and knuckles.




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Joshua Answers:


Hi Jay.

It's true, most sources don't think of Tendonitis as anything other that a very site specific injury or source of pain.

Unfortunately, that's just now how the body works. The body does not work in isolation. Everything is connected. Everything responds and compensates and shifts to each and every tiny change.

It's also useful to notice that you doctor has no idea what is causing your pain.

You could have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and have just fine results from the nerve conduction testing.

Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, which is nothing but a label for a set of symptoms, can be VERY similar to Wrist Tendonitis.

If you have a Pain Causing Dynamic, whether it's mild or acute, you can have all sorts of pain throughout the area.

Tell me more about your symptoms, your activities, the history of this, etc, in as much detail as possible, and I'll have a better idea of what's going on.



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Feb 04, 2011
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by: danny

i have been experiencing a lot of pain in the top of my right hand, lately it causes my discomfort the pain is quite sharp sometimes and it feels really tight strain .
Mar 13, 2012
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by: Amy

I realize this is in regards to an old post, but I've recently had a similar issue. The pain is on the back of my hand, between the ring and pinky fingers...sometimes extending to the wrist. In a neutral position, it seems okay, but certain movements can bring me to my knees, even something as mundane as hooking and unhooking my bra.

When I have to stand from the floor or a recliner, i can't push up with my palms, I have to make a fist and push like that...opinion?


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Joshua Comments:

Plenty of opinion, always! :)

But first, more details:

1. When you push off with a fist, does it hurt at all?

2. If you standing and you put your hand flat on a surface (table, counter) and push, does it hurt? Like pushing out of a chair?

3. If your arm/wrist is flat (as opposed to when it's bent back to push off the floor/chair) and you push, does it hurt?

4. If your wrist is bent forward and you push, does it hurt?

5. When you say pain 'extending to the wrist', what does that mean, exactly?

6. Describe the pain symptoms, and any other symptoms.
Mar 19, 2012
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by: Amy

Okay, let me see if I can answer all these, lol.

1. If I am pushing down with a fist, it does not hurt AT ALL, as long as I keep my wrist straight.

2. If I'm standing and push down, I do feel a bit of pain on the outside of my wrist...nothing I can't handle, though. I just try not to push too hard! :)

3. If arm is flat and I push against something, absolutely no pain.

4. Forgive my language, but it hurts like hell if I bend my wrist forward and try to keep my fingers straight. With my right hand, I can bend my fingers forward enough to touch underneath my wrist. Impossible for my left.

5. Describe "extending to the wrist". Hmm. This is hard. I'll try to incorporate question 6 with this as well. The pain seems to mainly occur on the top of my hand between the wrist and the knuckle on my pinky and ring fingers. If I am doing some sort of activity, it hurts mainly on top of my hand. If I am resting or otherwise doing nothing, the pain seems to be mainly on the outside of the wrist.

This all started about four or five weeks ago. Everything I had read thus far about tendonitis states that when folks have flare ups, they generally don't last more than two weeks. I was really putting off having to go to the doctor if it was something silly. I've worn a rigid brace for a week or two, and that did good, considering it kept the wrist from the movements that cause pain; however, it wasn't getting any better, so I discontinued that.

Thanks so much for your opinions, there isn't too much I can find.
Mar 20, 2012
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by: The Tendonitis Expert

Joshua Comments:

Oh...if only flare ups lasted two weeks...

Let me rephrase that. They either do, or they don't.

The body does weird things. Sometimes you just hurt for a bit for no good reason, and it goes away. *shrug*

The pain can be due to a number of things, but ultimately that action fires muscles and associated factors etc a certain way which triggers a PAIN signal to fire.

So, you're options as I see them:

1. Wait it out and see what happens.

2. Learn How To Reduce Inflammation, Ice Dip a bunch, and see what happens. Might as well squeeze your forearm muscles regularly, locate tight spots, and squeeze extra.

3. Get the Reversing Wrist Tendonitis ebook and do everything it says.

That will be a good tool if this does happen to just go away...but come back again in the future.

The danger is, due to the Pain Causing Dynamic, the pain you have now is setting you up for more pain in the future.

Break the dynamic now, and get the ecology of your forearm (which attaches to structures in your wrist and is the real culprit, ultimately) happy again. That's my favored plan of attack.

Having said that, I'm as lazy as the next guy, and I often wait things out just to see what happens.


More questions, more answers.
Apr 03, 2012
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by: Loribeth

The top of my hand and wrist have been hurting also. I just noticed this in the last couple days. It seems to be more severe after driving for a little while. Also some in typing but I think that's just from the use of my hands, nothing similar to carpal tunnel. I have looked up the symptoms for that and they don't match.
It's my right hand. The top (or back side) between my ring finger/pinky finger and wrist. My wrist hurts on the underneath side and some in the palm. I can't think of anything I've done to injure it and I can't see anything wrong from looking at it.
I guess maybe it's just tendonitis? I've had it in my elbow and ankle before and I know you have to stop using it if possible so it can heal.
Not sure if I have a question other than if you think that it sounds like tendonitis and if I'm correct to try to not use it. (Although with an office job that may be hard to do).
Thanks!! :)


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Joshua Comments:

You said "...I know you have to stop using it if possible so it can heal.". You -think- that because that's what you've been told by doctors and the internet. There's no truth to it, for a variety of reasons, including, what's to heal?

Are you injured? No injury, no need to 'heal'.

There are other factors, of course, that cause pain. But I'm no fan of Rest.
Jul 16, 2012
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by: Carly

Hi Joshua,

I am also experiencing severe pain in my right wrist, knuckles and top of hand. It hurts to put weight on and move my wrist and fingers in certain directions. If I flex my hand up and down it hurts and to fold my fingers underneath my hand it really hurts.

This has been going on for some years now for me. I never really know what triggers it, I have my suspicions but nothing for sure. My GP told me that I suffered from something called De Quervains Tenosynovitis and I have looked this up online it is quite a specific test. This test does not cause me pain. Should I go back to see my GP again.

Look forward to hearing from you

Carly


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Joshua Comments:

It doesn't sound like Dequervains Tendonitis, which is just thumb tendonitis.

Doesn't sound like your GP called it right, nor has been able to help over the last few years (or if you're new to your GP, wasn't able to provide any relief to a chronic problem), so, ya know, it's up to you.

Just from what you've said, I don't know, could be your version of Wrist Tendonitis, which is a problem of the forearm that affects the wrist and in your case possibly the hand.

I'd suggest you do the self care you find on the site, or get my Reversing Wrist Tendonitis ebook, do the self care, and then let me know what happens, and we can fine tune from there.
Aug 17, 2012
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by: Andy

I have a painful pulling feeling from the knuckle of my left ring finger. Normally, if my wrist is straight. If I flex my wrist (bend it so the palm moves toward my arm) i feel a pulling sensation from that knuckle. This has been occurring for some time, probably more than a year. But lately, on some days, I feel pain even when my wrist is straight.

Thank you,
Andy


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Joshua Comments:

Ok.

And?
Oct 02, 2012
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by: Alesha

Hi there - im on day 3 of this acute pain, was hoping it would go away so I did not have to make a trip to the doctor - the source is a spot just above my wrist on top of my hand, so sore and tender and feels like stabbing pains - i cannot lift anything not even a carton of milk and this is making carring my 17month old son a nightmare - i cant make a fist as that hurts far too much and it kept me awake all last night, the pain was so severe, it seems to be worse at night as it throbs and I cant lean on it all - any advice as to what this could be??


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Alesha.

It could be a variety of things.

Primarily, it's the pain enhancing chemical released by the Process of Inflammation.

If you have a young child, you're also looking at nutritional insufficiency adding to the whole dynamic.


Start here: How To Reduce Inflammation

And here: Magnesium for Tendonitis
Oct 16, 2012
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by: Dustin

I am just wondering if you can have pain from carpal tunnel on the posterior of the wrist and not just the anterior.

I have pain on the posterior wrist with certain activities that I perform which in turn causes increased pain and discomfort as well as decreased ROM and decreased grip strength. Can this be caused from or related to carpal tunnel?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Dustin.

Sure. You can have pain anywhere.

The question is, do you actually have 'Carpal Tunnel'?

Regardless of that answer, the cause of your pain is, ultimately, the Pain Causing Dynamic.

Tightness, and more of it, causes pain and problem like reduced range of motion etc.
Dec 18, 2012
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by: Rockciano Garza

Hi I wrk in a freezer dept.and I my hand freeze up bad...is it posible to damage nerves? Cause the last two days I been gettin pains in my right hand shootin to my tips of my fingers to my palms,and my knucklez...it painful...can some body tell me sumthing...thx


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Rockciano.

Is it possible to damage nerves? Sure it is.

What does 'I had my hands freeze up bad' mean, exactly?
Jan 17, 2013
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by: Lindsey

Joshua,

Starting just last week I began experiencing short, shooting pains from my wrist to the knuckle on my index finger while performing menial tasks that involve the rotaion of my wrist or awkward grabbing.

At first, it was brief and infrequent (but enough to make me vocalize pain), but this morning it started while I was simply making a sandwich, and brought me to my knees immediately. All day my hand has been bearing a deep dull pain with the frequent shooting pain that I would describe as nerve pain that seems to be slowly creeping up my forearm. These pains occur most often while typing, writing, dialing or picking up the phone, or any activity that requires my wrist to move, which is basically my entire job.

While there is a lot of pain, nothing is swollen in my hand or wrist. It would seem to me that the pain is originating in my wrist.

Should I ride this out and see if it goes away? Would it seem to you that this might be tendon pain or nerve pain?

I recently recovered from a back injury, do you think that any strain still in my trapezius would pull on my arm muscles causing it to pinch?

The physical therapist I used to see thought I might have tendonitis in my "stupid"spinatus tendon or weakness in my subscapularis in the same arm as my pained wrist, does tendonitis spread or stay localized?

I know this is a lot of information, but I would appreciate any advice.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Lindsey.

1. The more information the better.

2. The PT said 'stupid spinatus' or 'supraspinatus'? A supraspinatus weakness/imbalance can cause issue down the arm, but doesn't sound like your particular situation, though I could be playing a role.

3. The mechanism of the tendonitis dynamic spreads, as the individual factors cause the structures around to follow it's lead. That's a function of the Pain Causing Dynamic.

4. Back injury can definitely affect the shoulders and arms, as back injury and recovery causes a Pain Causing Dynamic.

5. I would never suggest just riding something out. I guess you could, as an experiment to see what happens. I'd rather you learn How To Reduce Inflammation and ice dip the forearm and see what happens.

6. I'm also a big fan of Magnesium For Tendonitis


Keep me updated.
Feb 20, 2013
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by: Lani

Hi,,I've recently been to the doc & she seems to think I have carpal tunnel, im being referred to a specialist!

So this is what's going on! First off I do not work with computers at all! One morning I awoke with my hand tingling & numb I thought it was jut asleep but the tingling last for a few days & its still numb 3 months later! I get pain in the middle of my wrist & lately I've been getting a pain thats going to my elbow!

The inner wrist hurts & if I scratch my inner wrist up & down I get the tingling in my 3 fingers thhe whole top of my hand to my ring finger is numb including my first 3 fibers!!

When i say inner wrist I mean the left side of my right wrist..as of the past 3 days my LEFT shoulder has been hurting like in my joint where my arm goes into my shoulder!

Could these two be related! Is this early arithritis. ,is there something going on with my nerves idk the shoulder pain is in a different arm then the carpal tunnel!! Just feels like tendinitis in.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Lani.

It sounds like there's several clues of several different variables at play.

My guess is most of the problem is up at the neck.

Magnesium For Tendonitis never hurt anybody, of course.

If you slept on your neck wrong, and muscles clamped down and never let go (due to nutritional insufficiency, verterbral subluxation, etc) then that can compress on the nerve, like stepping on a water hose. Just gotta take the foot off.

Maybe you have something going on at the elbow, forearm, and wrist, probably you do, but I'd look at the neck first. I don't usually suggest a person see a chiropractor, but i'd be curious to see what happened to your symptoms after a session or two.

I'm not to worried about the other shoulder, in the sense that everything in the body adapts to everytyhing else. If you have a problem on one side, the other side has to compensate in a variety of ways.
Feb 21, 2013
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by: Lindsey

She called the the supraspinatus, but joked that she sometimes refers to it as the stupidspinatus as a PT joke.

My doctor was always concerned with pain down my arms and wrists with my back injury because I've got a circumfrential bulge in my C5-C6 that, when when I'm extra stressed out enough to cause my back muscles to strain, he said can press on some nerves. So if that's a factor, I'll eventually need to actually do something about it, I suppose.

The pain has subsided quite a bit and turned into a "once in a while" kind of thing. The wrist will ache for a day or two then stop for a week or so. I've been using something called MaxFreeze, that I feel does some good when I'm having a flare up.

Basically I'm riding it out until my insurance kicks in before I establish a doctor in this area (I just moved to a different geographical region so I think this could be a result of a lot of stress causing my back to flare). Then I'll be able to decide if it's tendon related or spine related, I'm really only riding it out for that reason.

I'll do some research on the Magnesium for Tendonitis and I'll look around at the How To Reduce Inflammation page, but like I said, there's no noticeable inflamation in the area.
Feb 25, 2013
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by: Samantha

I just started working out again (which it has been over 6 months) and when I tried to do push-ups I have a sharp pain between my pinky & ring finger on my left hand.

It is only when I put weight on it such as, pushing my body off the ground or even when I tried doing standing up push-ups off the wall.

It almost feels like I need to pop my knuckles but then it's a sharp pain. I know I am 25lbs overweight so perhaps that has something to do with it? I have never had this issue nor any physical problems before.
Mar 15, 2013
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by: Adam

about 5 months ago I landed really hard on my shoulder and possible caused something to jar loose. I have had some issues with that but very recently i was skiing and landed awkwardly and had to put all my weight on the pole causing some discomfort in my elbow. About 2 weeks later I started getting these pulsing paines shooting down my forearm and into my hand that seem to localize between my ring and middle finger.

Now it is not crippling pain by any means but very uncomfortable. I do lift weights pretty heavily 4 days a week and run about 30k a week. But on top of that i work behind a computer all day as well.

If i could get some guidance on something to aleviate this pain or fix what may be wrong that would be outstanding. Thank you.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Adam.

So what's hurting now? Your shoulder or your elbow or...?
May 14, 2013
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by: Anonymous

My right hand has been very sore for a few months now. The pain starts in between my index finger and my middle finger and is starting to spread down to my wrist. There is swelling in between the fingers too which Dr believes is the tendon.

My hand is very weak and it hurts to even hold anything in it. I cant make a fist without it hurting so bad I'm almost in tears. I can't bend my middle finger or move it to the side without it feeling like its ripping and I'm in pain.

My Dr gave Motrin 800s and norcos to help but it still isn't helping. Can u give me some advice as to what it could be and hopefully a way to get some relief for this??


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Joshua Commments:

Take a look at the Tenosynovitis page, see if that rings a bell.

Defintely read the What Is Tendonitis page.

And learn How To Reduce Inflammation. You'll need to do that intensively for at least a few days to lower pain levels. It's not a fix, but it's your best chance of lowering pain levels quickly while getting the other benefits it provides.
Jun 14, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Today, I realized on top of my right hand it started hurting when i put weight on it. or even for doing simple things such as grabbing a blanket with only one hand.

I haven't told anyone since it is only the first day. it also hurts if i push my middle finger in... Help?


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Joshua Comments:

Need more details. Who what how where when how long physical activities previous injury age etc.
Jun 15, 2013
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by: Cortney

Ive been having pain in my knuckle of my pinky finger or about a week now... It throbs, and there is sometimes stabbing pain. It comes and goes.
Jun 28, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Hi Joshua
Sometimes when I push something or shift gears I feel a pain on the top of my hand which feels like my veins or tendons are being yanked sharply. What is causing this ?

Thanks


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous.

It's probably a spasm. A sudden and very strong and fast (but small) cramp. It feels like an electric shock a little bit, yes? Muscle contraction is electric, nerve impulse is electric, etc.

So when the body has this little sudden contraction, it fires off a big charge through the area and connected structures, basically.

Maybe it doesn't feel electric, but that pulling is literal pulling of tissue in the area from muscle contraction (which pulls on connective tissue which pulls on everything it's connected to.
Jul 07, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Hi Joshua

I hope you can help me? I went to the gym for 9 weeks before my symptoms started. They began with extreme pain in the balls of my both feet, it got to the point I couldn't walk properly.

My fingers also swelled up, mainly the 2 next to the thumb on both hands but also the ring, the right thumb and the inside joint of my little fingers. My knees also were very painful.

14 weeks down the line, I was told I had zeronegative arthritis, there was no evidence of arthritis. I got a wrist scan on my right wrist and they found tendonitis on the ulnar side with the sheath also inflamed.

My fingers have never decreased, I tried your advice for 2 days now..icing and I am hurting bad again and 2 main fingers have increased in size.

My wrist also has began to hurt again even without using it. I had a scan done of my feet and I have a ganglion in one and both have inflammation. I cannot wear normal shoes like I use too. My knees are still fragile but don't hurt all the time.

I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism but this is now under control after only 12 days of taking medication.

Please could you tell me if you think I may have tendonitis in these areas, as I don't believe it is arthritis?

Can you tell me if the ice will work for me as I have more pain now but I am thinking it may be that it will hurt before it gets better.

I have also been given a referral for a nerve conductor test, do you think that would be beneficial for me?

Thank you
Margaret


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Joshua Comments:

HI Margaret.

Nerve Conduction Tests aren't beneficial in that they don't help or fix anything.

Might they provide you some helpful information? Maybe.

If you're suddenly having foot pain and upper body pain and inflammation everywhere, the question is, WHY?

Thyroid issues certainly don't help body function, so that's good that's under control with medication but again the question is WHY the thyroid issue?

Generally, it's a nutritional issue.

So.

1. Go off ALL gluten for 60 days, then have a pizza and see how you feel. Gluten is an inflammatory agent and causes ALL sorts of problems.

2. Describe a day in the life of you diet.

3. How old are you?

4. History of health problem or injury of any kind?

5. History of athletics? What kind of job (sitting all day, moving around all day, etc)

6. What is your vitamin D level. If you don't know, find out.




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Jul 15, 2013
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by: Margaret

Hi Joshua

Thankyou for your reply.
A day in the life of my diet - Embarrassing cause it is not good!
Breakfast - 2 slices of toast, I try now to use healthy bread..gluten free, I always used to use peanut butter but recently over the last 2 weeks have used butter and marmamlade, 1 cup of coffee, little milk and no sugar.

I sometimes snack in the morning....usually snacks through out the day...slices of cooked ham, chocolate bar or 2, oranges, biscuits.
Lunch - whatever is quick and easy - pies, soup with bread, fast food etc.

Snacks also include ice cream.
Dinner- mostly stirfry's like curries.
Snack - biscuits.

I am not over weight, I am 5ft 6ins and I weight 65kgs. I am 45 years old, I am a busy mother of 2 young children, I have other children that are older.

I attended a gym for 9 weeks, 3 times a week.

First of all I was given weights suitable for me but after a while I increased them to what I felt I was able to do.

I don't know of any injuries, I know my knee hurt once whilst in the gym doing leg weights.

I got an ultrasound done of my wrist and the tendon and sheath are inflamed.

It has been 16 weeks now since all my symptoms started, I generally feel so much better but I still have pain in my wrist and fingers which are also still swollen.

I also still can not wear normal shoes. My knees still give me pain from time to time but nothing like they used too.

I went to see a chiropractor today who adjusted my pelvis and has told me that we will eventually get to what it is that is causing it.

I would love to do the 60 day gluten free but I am so busy and I would not even know how to shop that way. I shop on a budget for the whole family.
I looked into gluten free recipes and it is time consuming to me, I could be wrong.

My vitamin D level I was told was fine but possibly a little on the low side.

I appreciate your advice.

Thanks
Margaret


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Joshua Comments:

1. Find out what your Vit D level is. It's pretty important for proper function of all systems in the body (adequate levels of Vit D reduce the incidence of breast cancer by 85%....)

2. Gluten free is definitely a change in habit..but it's the habit change that's hard, not actually the diet.

3. I'm not going to call your dietary intake 'bad', but I will say that it's low on nutrition. And the body can't function without proper nutrition. It's going to be worth it for you in the short and the long run to make some wise adjustments. (And thus I'm a fan of therapeutic supplementation, it's an easy cheat. :)
Jul 27, 2013
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by: rhonda

I have been waitress for about 25 years. I am left handed, and use my left hand for everything. I don't have medical insurance, so going to the doctor is the last resort.

For the last 3 weeks my wrist has been killing me!! Where I could carry big trays with ease, they now about drop me to my knees. It's on the outside of my wrist and i did all the tests you had above, and the only one that killed me painfully was the one where you push away, I can't move my wrist back to push without pain to my wrist and pointer finger.

I didn't hurt it or do anything different, and I did rest it for a week when i went on vacation. I just went back to work today, and pain is still there and still the same.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Rhonda.

That's no surprise re: the pain coming back after a week of rest, as rest doesn't help anything (see the link to the 'Rest' page further down the thread).

So, what have you been doing to try to help it so far?
Jul 29, 2013
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by: Carly

I have found out that the pain I have been suffering from in the top of my hand, knuckles and fingers for the past couple of years is not de quervains but is actually a dorsal ganglion cyst - the hospital are going to operate on it.

Thank you for your advice though.


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Joshua Comments:

Well, we work with what we got, do some trial and error, and learn as we go.

Purely out of curiosity, was there any conversation with the hospital re: choosing between options of surgery and smacking the ganglion cyst with a bible (like they did in the good old days).

Also out of curiosity, how 'deep' is the cyst and/or how close to a nerve?
Jul 29, 2013
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by: Carly

It's really deep - they have aspirated twice and removed 80% of the fluid but each time within 7 days it returned. They do not recommend hitting it with a bible and due to the fact that I have had severe trauma to this wrist breaking both my radius and ulna when I was younger - I was not keen to try this method. They have decided to proceed with excision as it wakes me from sleep due to pain but have said that because of it's depth and size they will have to do so under a general anaesthetic - they do think that I may have de quervains which has caused the tendon sheath to tear and cause the cyst but the steroid injections provided no relief to the pain at all.


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Joshua Comments:

Yeah, the deeper a ganglion cyst is, the more problematic it is to try to burst it with force. Not only do people hurt themselves just by the impact, but the sudden burst of fluid from the bubble can cause damage.

The problem with ganglion cysts is that they generally reform. If aspirated, they just fill back up. If removed, hopefully it will take a good long while before anything regrows.

But the forces that cause it to grow/regrow are still in place

Torn tendon sheath doesn't by definition cause ganglion cysts to form. If you have a previous break, that certainly makes sense, as ganglion cysts tend to form where there is force/torque happening in the tissue.

I have the Reversing DeQuervain's Tendonitis ebook completed, just need to get the salespage up etc, so it will be a couple days before you see it on the site. Might be worth it to try what it says to do, and it will help you recover from surgery quicker than normal too.

Why do the docs think you have DeQuervain's, and do they know you tore some tendon sheath tissue, or are they just theorizing about all that?
Jul 30, 2013
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by: Carly

Excellent I will. Well I have been suffering with pain on and off for about 6 years. My old GP originally diagnosed it as de quervains using the test whereby you pull your thumb across your palm and then move the wrist. It would only flare up occasionally and go away after using a splint and anti inflammatry pills.

The past two years has seen the growth of the bump and more consistent pain, weight bearing squeezing, generally any movement and I have good days and bad days. They do know about the trauma that occurred 20 years ago and I think it is a theory about the tendon tear.

I have been under the local hospital (UK) since January and met with a few of the consultants assistants and they tried most things. At first the sent me for an ultrasound to aspirate it and the consultant wouldn't as it wasn't superficial enough. The second told me he didn't think it was the ganglion causing pain but de quervains and a ganglion was an off shot of that. He gave me a cortisone injection and yet another splint. The third decided it was the ganglion and sent me back for an ultrasound and aspiration which they did that time. The last time I went I actually met with the consultant herself. She tried to aspirate it again but could not get any fluid from it. She did then try to pop it with force using her hands (very painful). The cyst I understand is lying between two tendons in my wrist - I don't think they actually know the cause.

They have also muted that it could be due to the work I undertake a bit like RSI but who knows - the bump itself isn't too unsightly and doesn't bother me it's the pain and lack of use of my right hand that is the problem.

Thank you
Aug 03, 2013
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by: Margaret

Hi Joshua
I wrote to you before and now I have some more information to go on.
I attended a podiatrist who said the ganglion in the ball of my foot was pressing on a tendon which had caused a bursa...which created the inflammation and the painful condition I experienced, I am still in treatment for that at the moment but the Rheumatiodologist's diagnose of arthritis in my feet was wrong.
Also I had another ultrasound of my wrist which finally showed a build up of fluid in different areas which I believe is the cause of injury in the gym and the reason I have tendonitis of the wrist.
As you know from before my fingers are swollen, the first 3 of them. I have a pins and needles sensation that goes through my hand (thumb side) and into these fingers....I was checked for carpal tunnel before and I don't have it but I am thinking maybe the fluid is built up and compressing a nerve?
Do you have any remedies to get rid of this kind of fluid build up? The doctors are still trying to convince me I have arthritis and put me on lifelong immune suppressant medication.
They were wrong about my feet and my knees which were sore because of my feet.
The chiropractor did not help...I really don't think he did much at all but got paid for it.
Any advice gratefully received.....Thanks!
Margaret


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Margaret.

1. Bursa's don't form, they are set structures of a body's anatomy. So either you misquoted her or she's off her rocker, or she's using the term to mean 'a build up of tissue' which is certainly possible.

2. 'Lifelong immune suppressant medication' is barbaric and...well...dumb. Why not just remove the source of the inflammation? Sugar, gluten, fix any leaky gut (proteins etc get through the cell wall and the body attacks itself), etc.

3. Quickly remind me, what was the 'injury' in the wrist that the fluid is supposedly from?

4. What's the current status of the foot/ganglion cyst in the foot?
Aug 03, 2013
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by: Margaret

I probably did misquote the podiatrist.
It is all too technical for me but I was just relieved to hear it was not arthritis...1st time in a long time!

I went to a gym for 9 weeks prior to all my symptoms and at the same time I took bad painful feet, my fingers began to swell. Doctor and Rhuemy immediately latched onto sero negative arthritis and wouldn't and still won't let go of that diagnosis.

Ultrasound found tendonitis in my right wrist of the sheath and tendon, the left was not scanned...it was on the small finger side.

I have symptoms of carpal tunnel, if I touch that side of wrist or below thumb area, I get pins and needles, all the right fingers are swollen too, on both hands.

Ultrasound did not reveal carpal tunnel.
I don't know for sure that I injured my wrist, I just know that I was doing weights and I was left too it after first being shown what was suitable for me.

I have took it for myself that the fluid is a result of some sort of injury I may have got.
I am hypothyroid so it could also be a result of that.

The podiatrist gave me an anesthetic injection into both feet and I have to go back next week.
I feel better in one foot but the other one still feels like a small hard lump that could still have to decrease or may need more work done.
Thanks
Aug 03, 2013
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by: Margaret

Just forgot to add, I don't know for sure but will in a while.....I don't think I have inflammation any more, I asked the ultrasound lady what she found and she said effusion.
I said what is that and she said a build up of fluid...medically speaking.
I am no longer in pain, just swollen fingers and trapped fluid as far as I know.
Aug 03, 2013
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by: Margaret

Hi Joshua

Just back from the doctors to find out what the test revealed.
Here it is, I have fluid in the tendon sheath of the extensor carpi ulnaris, tendon and sheath are vascular. This is the right wrist.
Left wrist - there is a 15x3x5mm cystic lesion adjacent to the distal flexor carpi radialis. It is consistent with a ganglion.
Tendons and sheaths have a normal appearance.
The doctor gave me steriods for the tendonopathy or tenosynovitis of the extensor carpi ulnaris and a letter for a surgeon to remove the ganglion.
I would like to know your thoughts on this?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Margaret.

Here are my thoughts on Corticosteroid Injections.

Ganglion Cysts

You have a chronic Process of Inflammation that is causing excess fluid to secrete and build up. Theoretically the body should drain it away, but it isn't. So you need to help it.

Remind me, have you been ice dipping?

Is the ganglion cyst actually causing any problems? It may or may not be, just all depends.

And then you weigh that against the damage surgery causes and could cause.
Sep 25, 2013
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by: Debbie

My right hand hurts with tightness and aches and when I push it down on a surface it hurts it is top of my right hand and from my middle finger and tight in top can you help,.?

I also have pained and burning sensation in my muscles round my left rib cage and travel around to my back near my spine.. Connected..?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Debbie.

I need more information.

What activities do you do? What's your overall health? Why might your ribs be hurting?
Oct 03, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Hi Joshua

I have finally I believe got a proper diagnosis for my condition. I have been told I have Thoracic outlet syndrome. I am now correcting my posture and I remembered just over 6 months ago that I badly hurt my neck on a kiddie slide.

I feel nerve feelings over my shoulder area and also in the clavicle area.

I have alot of tension in my neck and shoulder area.

I still have some edema in my fingers mostly the ring finger now.

The physiotherapist who diagnosed me gave me exercises to do rolling on a basketball, my shoulder blades hurt due to my condition and my spine also now due to the exercises.

Do you have any idea how long it will take me to get better?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi AnonyTOS.

I can't answer the question, because the answer depends on a lot of things: what you do to try to remedy the situation, your specific physical make up and structural posture/position, what muscles and connective tissue are doing, your nutritional status, etc.

1. What EXACTLY are you doing to counter the Thoracid Outlet Syndrome dynamic?

2. Age?

3. Overall health?

4. History of activity, like, what job do you do? (Sit at a desk all day, moving around all day, etc) In other words, what has your body been doing (posturally and functionally) the last 10+ years?

5. What brought this on do you think? How long has it been leading up to this?
Oct 17, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Hurts to shake hands pinky knuckle goes down very painful. Like pinky knuckle isn't connected grip is weak to. Hurts to bend wrist back like can't do a pushup.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonypinky.

1. Did anything happen to 'injure' it?


2. For the wrist, that means that muscles and connective tissue in your forearm are TOO TIGHT.


3. What are you doing for self care to help it?
Nov 07, 2013
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by: Vanna

For the past week or so I've had constant pain shooting through my fingers, I use to crack my knuckles skirt and now my fingers get extremely sore.

But my middle finger on my right hand is the worst it's an irritated feeling but as well as sore, it hurts to bend to touch and it's always irritated.

The pain in my hand comes and goes but my middle finger is always bad.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Vanna.

Ice dipped yet? See the How To Reduce Inflammation link deeper in the thread.

This has been going on just a week?
Nov 23, 2013
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by: Abby

The top of my hand around my middle knuckle is swollen and has been for two days now. Feels like it has been jammed or something too could that be associated with my carpal tunnel? What can I do to make the jammed feeling go away?

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Joshua Comments:

Hi Abby.

1. Read the entire thread.

2. Follow the How To Reduce Inflammation link you'll find in here.

3. Is it dislocated at all?

4. VERY light traction (gently pull on the finger to gently 'un-jam' it. THat jammed feeling can be actual compression of the joint, or it can just be from the swelling and inflammation, or a combination of both.
Nov 30, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Hi,

I have commented on here before some time ago when the doctor thought I had de quervains and then it was decided I had a dorsal ganglion cyst. I had the cyst excised three weeks ago now.

My entire hand is numb and the finger next to my thumb following the operation but more importantly - I have little or no movement in the joint.

The wrist is very painful with any movement and I have (what I am told) a large solid lump of scar tissue that has filled the void of the cyst. My surgeon told me there was a large defect to the dorsal joint capsule which was repaired at the end of surgery and was the cause of the cyst. Is there anything I can do to improve my joint movement, reduce pain and scar tissue?

Carly

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Joshua Comments:

Hi Carly.

That sounds like no fun at all....:(

First off, I would Ice Dip like crazy. You want as much pain causing chemical and waste product out and as much nutrition filled blood in as possible.

Do that, as described on the How To Reduce Inflammation page, then give me an update here on how it feels with that.

Also, in general throughout the day, just keep your wrist moving, even just a TINY bit. Tiny motion keeps, deep in the wrist, things moving, keeps structures lubricated, helps counter the compression/lock down that pain causes, etc.

We'll just have to see about the scarr tissue etc.
Dec 22, 2013
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by: Hayley

I have an odd tic syndrome that makes me have to move my body in odd ways because of discomfort.

Lately I have been moving my wrists a lot and this morning I woke up with extreme discomfort in my wrists especially in my left one. When I move both my wrists forward with my fingers straight it is fine there is little to no pain.

When I put my left hand in a fist, though, and try and move it forward it moves about a cm forward and then it becomes absolutely impossible to move it any further at all. When I move it the little bit it can a bump forms in the middle of my wrist. Could that be a muscle? or a bone?


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Joshua Comments:

Hello Hayley.

I'm not sure, I'd need to know more.

1. Do you you actually have a 'syndrome'?

2. What does this mean? "When I move it the little bit it can a bump forms in the middle of my wrist."

3. Just your wrists, or other body parts/areas too?

4. Describe 'discomfort'.
Feb 11, 2014
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by: tgbrowneyes

Just found this string so I thought is try to see if I can get some info from you...I have Dequairvaine's Tenosinitus and had a cortisone shot for it awhile back. Helped for awhile but it came back. havent gotten another shot yet as I was pregnant.

Just had my second son and now have more pain and more than the thumb/wrist. Now, I also have pain on the top of the hand between the first knuckles of the first and middle fingers, especially when I push those two fingers to the side, away from my thumb.

I'm sure lifting my boys (2yrs and 2 months) is the culprit. Rest is not an option, so am I looking at shots for the new pain also?

Anything I can do myself? Thanks for your time.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi TGBrowneyes.

Well, kids are partly to blame as they are nutrition-sucking parasites... :) Cute and Loveable I'm sure, but they are what they are because they siphoned nutrition from you.

THat's just the way it works.

1. Read the Tenosynovitis page.

2. Read the Pregnancy Carpal Tunnel page. It's not about tenosynovitis per se, but everything applies.

Read the pages linked to from those pages too, the Pain Causing Dynamici, Inflammation, etc.


Rest isn't an option, that's true. But rest doesn't help anyway....
Mar 27, 2014
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by: marie

I have pain on the top of my left hand, but it doesn't bother me or hurt unless I touch something with it, for example I rub the back of my hand against my clothes and the pain is just unreal, if the back of my hand hits or touches something the pain is unreal, yet I can rub and touch the back of my hand and it doesn't hurt or bother me at all.
May 29, 2014
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by: Jenny

I'm an Stna (state tested nursing assistant) and have been one for 18 years. Here in the past few months my right wrist and hand hurt so bad it wakes me from sleep.

I will find a little relief when my husband massages my hand and cracks my thumb, but the relief doesn't re last long.

Please help I need to work pain free.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Jenny.

Start here: Wrist Tendonitis

Then go here: Wrist Tendonitis Symptoms (explains the cause of each symptom)

Then go here: Pain Causing Dynamic

Then go here: Process of Inflammation

Then go here: How To Reduce Inflammation
Aug 07, 2014
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by: Carlos

Hi Joshua, I have injured my finger number 4 which is the ring finger by playing around with my dog,

I cought a small metal pipe in between my middle and ring finger which pushed my ring finger more to the right since the swing was going that way it made it popped and now my middle finger and my ring finger have a space between them when I put them together and my ring finger hurts when I close my hand, this happened to the ring finger on my right hand.

I just want to know how can I fix it its not the bone. thanks


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Carlos.

I'm not sure what the issue is.

Did you dislocate a finger/joint?
Sep 21, 2014
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by: Dustin

Hi. I have had pain and stiffness for some time in the top joint of my finger.

Now if I bend it something inside it seems to pop and move that is not present in my other fingers. Its weird. Any ideas on what it might be? I have hit it with a hammer before.


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Joshua Comments:

Well, it sounds like you either damaged the joint by hitting it with a hammer in the past, or the muscles and tendons specifically attached to that finger joint are too tight, thus compressing the joint and causing the 'pop' as it's forced to 'jump' through it's range of motion.
Sep 25, 2014
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by: Anonymous

Pain to my knuckles burning and sharp on my right hand my thumb an trigger finger lots of pain all up my right arm and to my neck lots of pain
Sep 29, 2014
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by: Durden

Acute, sharp. I work out religiously. This has caused me to stop. I can't do pull ups, I can't use a suspension Body weight TRX) style. (right hand)

Things I can't do because sharp pain when these actions are made: twist caps off, use my thumb and pointer to pull off something. Make a fist and squeeze it tight. If my fingers are fully straight I can't bend them backwards.

Pains are in my knuckles, middle top (various). I'm being rendered to a Rhumitoid hand surgeon. I'm 34 years old, suffered from Graves' disease(hyperthyroid) and had it treated with radio.

I work in the oil industry outside turning valves, climbing, using wrenches. Starting to get symtoms in my left hand.


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Joshua CommentsL

Hi Durden.

Did you hit/smash your knuckles on something? Or is the hand pain just from the inflammatory issues you're experiencing?

Are you gluten free? If you're not, were I you I would go 100% gluten/wheat/grain for 3 months. Most auto-immune 'diseases' and 'inflammatory diseases', including Graves, is primarily the result of gluten and resulting Leaky Gut
(will open a new page from Kerri's www-easy-immune-health.com site).

If you're a beer drinker, switch to cider for a while.

Start eating good fat (avocado, organic pastured sources of butter, coconut oil)(and whey protein isolate) to help heal the gut.

Drop inflammatory agents like all gluten/wheat/grains and processed vegetable cooking oil.

That's the 'deepest' and most important thing to do.

If you punched a wall, that'd be one thing. But if your hands are having these symptoms from Graves, then no amount if icing or massage is goign to fix it (may help, but won't fix) and you have to go after the source of the symptoms, which is chronic systemic inflammation and the side effects/resulting mechanism of what happens when one has leaky gut.
Oct 08, 2014
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by: caz

i hurt myself lifting at work and i got this shooting pain in my index and middle finger and in the palm of my hand it cracked, for weeks i have had pains in my index finger and thumb but mostly my index finger.

i cannot bend it without hurting and i cannot lift anything with out it hurting, my doc said it was tendonitis and reckoned it should heal in few weeks, i've had this pain for 6 weeks now.

i have been to physio and they said something about tissue damage, so how long will it take to heal?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Caz.

There's no real way of answering that question, since I don't know if have an actual rip/tear injury or not.

Also, you're working from the assumption that things will always eventually get better all on their own, which is not necessarily true.

See: Pain Causing Dynamic

What are you doing for self care to help it get better?
Oct 18, 2014
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by: Anonymous

I have had an aching sore pain the back of my hand in the middle. It started after I woke up and It's not stopped. I work as a nightshift manager and I replenish throughout the night, went to work last night and found it difficult to lift and when I did it was sore.

Same when I went out during the day.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous.

Is this the first time this has happened?

Did something new/different happen at your job or in your life that might have kicked in a pain dynamic? Either an activity you don't normally do, or a stressful event (that uses up nutrition and thus the body can't operate optimally which often leads to pain or illness).
Oct 25, 2014
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by: Kristen

The last several years, off and on throughout my tumbling and gymnastics practice, I have had sharp pains in my right hand.

It has recently started to bother me more again after a couple years. I have researched wrist/hand pain, but not with much success .

I don't know if I should look into seeing my doctor?? Usually it only hurts really bad during stretching/practicing.

My wrist pops constantly; 5-10 times just rolling it around once. Often times it hurts when I bend my hand backward. Usually the pain comes from the middle of my hand, and on the top; not my palm. I

t hurts more in the two-thirds of my hand closest to my pinkie finger. When ever it starts to hurt, I have to stop putting any kind of pressure on it pretty quickly.

If I don't do any gymnastics and am very careful with my hand, it might be pretty much back to normal within a few days.

Might I have tendinitis? My symptoms/pain don't sound like much of what I have read about tendinitis, but I think it's closer than anything else.


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Hi Kristen.

You could have tendonitis.

You could have a bruised joint somewhere in the hand/wrist (there's a bunch of articular surfaces).

It sounds like if you rest for a few days the pain goes away, but if you start using the hand again it comes right back, yeah?

Either way, you're looking at a Pain Causing Dynamic (see link farther up the thread) and a general tendonitis dynamic (not enough nutrition, too tight muscle and connective tissue, and chronic inflammation).

Popping is generally from muscle tightness/imbalance. The wrist gets compressed so to move through it's range of motion it has to jump out of it's groove to some degree.

Rest is in no way shape or form a fix. Nor a form of therapy.

What are you doing for self care?
Nov 05, 2014
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by: ruby

I have recently been experiencing pain in the top of my hand my wrist and forearm.

I have worked in a carpet mill all my life. The pain is uncomfortable and irritating, I experience tightness and soreness constantly.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Ruby. Thanks for sharing.

If you are, what are you doing for self care to help get rid of these symptoms? (I ask it like that because maybe you're just now at the point where you're getting worried about it and motivated to look for answers.)
Nov 07, 2014
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by: Kristen

Currently I am not doing anything for self-care. When it starts to hurt, I usually try to stretch out my hand/wrist extra well, but then I also try not to use it, because it just hurts too much. If I try to continue using it, I have collapsed mid-cartwheel or handstand before, just because of all the pressure on it. It's like my muscles stop working; I just can't hold myself up anymore. Why is rest not a good thing?


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Joshua Comments:

Find out about Rest.

Muscles 'lose' strength and 'give out' for a couple main reasons.

1. The tighter a muscle is, the less strength potential it has. Meaning, the more contracted it is, the less contraction it can perform. So the tighter it is, the less strength is available.

2. If it's already 'weak', and/or if the body is injured or think it's injured, then the body won't let it get injured. So you go to do a cartwheel, and the nervous system says NO WAY!, stops contracrting at all, and you fall. But you don't get a rip/tear.

So that's probably a fair trade off.
Nov 22, 2014
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by: Kevin chafin

my whole hand hurts and the wrist I constantly every freaking day all rhe time I can ball my fist up and it cracks every time it hurts like hell.

My doctor doesn't think it's carpal tunnel has not done any test and I don't know what to do.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Kevin.

So what are you doing now, or what have you done so far, to help make this better?

What are you doing that is making it worse?

Read this thread and follow/read the links on this thread, then ask any questions you have here.
Dec 11, 2014
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by: Cassie

For the past couple weeks my fingers have been numb and tingly. I'm a gymnast so maybe it is that?

Can you please tell me what might have caused it and what can I do to make it go away?


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Joshua Comments:

1. Read through this thread and follow/read the links to pages like 'rest', 'rest and relaxation', 'pain causing dynamic', 'wrist tendonitis', etc.

2. Do you have any neck or hand/arm/wrist injuries?

3. Tell me more about the numbness/tingling. Sometimes, always, comes and goes?

4. If you hold your arm up to the ceiling and hold it there, does the numbness/tingling start/get worse?
Dec 30, 2014
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by: Camille

In the last couple of years I have had super bad pain all over but particularly noticeable in my hands.

A physician said it was arthritis from abuse to my hands thru out life. I'm 52. No one on either side of my family has it. I dont drink, smoke or toke.

I took ibuprofen for years for migraines, not now, and have a habit of not drinking at least half the daily suggested amount of fluids.

I did discover by researching I am Vit D deficient even though I have been supplementing since I tested deficient in March. Any ideas? Suggestions?

I am not a technology enthusiast so not lots of typing, I cook, I clean.

Thanks


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Camille.

1. What was your Vit D level?

2. How much have you been supplementing with?

3. Arthritis is either (primarily) caused by long term tight muscles compressing the joints, or systemic inflammation from eating inflammatory foods

4. How much gluten/wheat/processed foods/sugar/processed vegetable cooking oil do you intake?

5. Drink more water.
Jan 06, 2015
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by: Charlie

Hi Joshua,

I've been experiencing pain in my left hand for around a week now, had xrays and no breaks.

The pain comes when ever and pressure is applied to the outside of my hand, image a karate chop action. Is especially painfully if I push the the outside knuckle on my little finger inwards towards my thumb.

The nurse said it sounds like tendonitis but want a second opinion if possible please. It also hurts when typing but downwards pressure doesn't seem to hurt as much as the inward, towards thumb direction.

Any ideas? Many thanks.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Charlie.

So...is it joint pain? Or overall area pain?
Jan 27, 2015
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by: Jordan

Hi there, I have been having a dull pain on the top of my wrist where my wrist flexes and moves up and down. The dull ache is only when I bend my wrist downwards, as if I was trying to touch my elbow.

No numbness or tingling in my hand or fingers, but when I try to lift a heavy object or do a barbell curl, the pain is there and hurts quite a bit.

I've been putting natural oils on it, Rub A535 on it, ice and heat but it only temperately takes the pain away and is back a few hours later. I do not use any wrist braces.

I do work on a computer during the day so I've made sure to be seated properly and type using proper form but the dull achy pain is always there, and only on the top of my wrist, never the bottom or side, right in the middle on top.

Any answers or help would be appreciated, I have not seen a doctor yet but have read plenty about this, but all I ever see is wrist pain on the bottom of the wrist and never the top so I though I would check here first.


Thanks,
Jordan


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Jordan.

Pain can show up anywhere, including the back of the hand (see this thread).

1. Read this thread and follow the links I point to (Pain causing dynamic, magnesium for tendonitis, etc).


2. See Related: Hand And Wrist Pain From Weight Lifting Playing Guitar And Computer Use


3. See Related: How Do I Heal My Wrist Tendonitis And Reverse The Tendonitis Damage?


4. Then come back with any questions.
Mar 05, 2015
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by: YM

I have this constant pain whenever I move my middle finger on my left hand. It feels like the pain begins around the knuckle area and goes down to the middle of my forearm underneath.

I try to keep my hand in a fist plus massage and add pressure to elevate or prevent pain. This just started recently and I work with lifting and typing everyday.





Aug 30, 2015
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by: Anonymous

I have bad wrist pain . I can't put any weight on it like push up.

Its not swollen no injury but if you pull my two fingers out you can feel it separate and hear bones grinding.

Please help.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous.

Read the entire thread, follow the links and read those pages.

Come back with questions.
Jan 13, 2016
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by: Kuldeep M.

I m 21 year old mbbs student.

i m suffering from pain in base of right hand thum since last 3-4 year. early it felt some time during writting, but it got worst time to time, now I felt some without doing any activity. There is inflammation in right hand thumb also. Left hand seems good and fine.

I showed many expert and also a head of departnent of our colleges respected physio, medicine and orthopedics doctors also. Though I did not get relieve.

pls help sir...

thank u..


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Joshua Comments:

Hello Kuldeep.

Unfortunately, doctors as a profession have no training in tendonitis and thus have very little ability to understand or fix the problem.

So while we presume that doctors do/should have the answers, the vast majority of patients' experiences is that they don't.

So. Read this entire thread, and follow and read all the links to other pages you'll find in it.

That's where to start.
Jan 24, 2016
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by: Anonymous

Had cortisone for tendernitis but lump on wrist gettin bigger.
Jan 24, 2016
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by: jennifer

I have read all the comments and its not only me suffering from this type of pain, two years ago this kind of pain with the numbing and strikes of pain shooting knife kind of jolts up the wrist.

Ended up getting tested, the doctor said it was tendentious and told me to go home and it should get better, hello, two years later and I am unable to straighten my baby finger and ring finger on my right had, really really bad pain and shooting pain in the wrist and now up the arm.

As I am right handed I use that hand for everything.... please what should I do now?????


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Jennifer.

Did you follow the links and read those pages?

Specifically, the ones for Process of Inflammation, Pain Causing Dynamic, and Magnesium For Tendonitis?

If not, that's what to do next.
Apr 11, 2016
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by: Janet

My pain started off in my palm every time I grab something it gave me a shooting pain.

I woke the next morning my hand is worst especially my pointer finger.

The most I can't straighten or bend my hand it really hurts my knuckles and palm is swollen I don't know what I did or what to do but it really hurts.
Apr 24, 2016
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by: Anonymous

I have pain in my index finger on top of my first knuckle where my nail is and it shooting up to my hand and then up my arm is very painful even when you touch it.
May 01, 2016
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by: Anonymous

Hi 5 days ago I injected in my wrist ever since it's been red and swollen and hurts so much when I move my hand up or down what could i have injected into part from vein please?


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Joshua Comments:

1. What did you inject into your wrist?

2. look up some wrist anatomy. There's all sorts of stuff to hit, and I have no idea what you were trying to accomplish or how/where you were injecting.
May 02, 2016
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by: Fran

Hi, I've been being treated for carpal tunnel syndrome for 2 yrs, shots seem to help but I have maxed out with 4 and now doctor has recommended surgery.

I feel like my symptoms do not match symptoms of CTS.

I'm having stiffness in my last three fingers when waking up and pain in my right wrist palm side down from pinky, mostly when I lift something heavy or press down on something with hands down or even when pressing with my finger, hand tingling went away thou.

Also I have weakness in first finger and thumb, what do you think?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Fran.

1. I think that cortisteroid injections for carpal tunnel symptoms is a terrible treatment modality in that it has no chance of fixing the problem.

2. I think that what you describe (last three fingers) points to compression at the elbow and/or neck (yet another reason injections are generally doomed to fail).


Hopefully that doctor isn't also the surgeon, as I have serious doubts about where he's going to be making cuts and whether that's going to help.

See: Quiz Your Doctor
Jul 02, 2016
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by: Jara

it's a shooting pain starts back of palm and up to middle of arm when i put any pressure or lift with that left wrist..
Nov 11, 2016
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by: Bob A

My symptoms are identical to Amy's, but only in my left hand. About an inch & a half from the V of my pinky and ring finger. If I press down, it hurts alot, sort of like a burning senseation. If I make a fist, doesn't hurt, if I open my hand. No pain. Only when I touch the ares. Similar as when you hit your funny bone.
Dec 31, 2016
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by: Tommy

I have pain in both my wrist but I have a habit of rubbing my wrist on the edge of the table when I have these pains in my wrist.

It's always a table with smooth edges, I want to know why I do that, when I rub them on the edge, my wrist will have a red area where it, but the pain goes away. Just hoping to find answers for that, before I rub my wrist to nothing.


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Joshua Comments:

I don't know why you do that, but one possible/likely reason is that you are 'distracting' the pain signal.

Pain is a very slow signal. Movement, rubbing like you are, any number of other imputs send a signal that competes with the pain signal to get through the 'gate'.

So you're 'distracting' your nervous system, basically.
Jan 01, 2017
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by: Kari

So a few weeks ago I was opening a twist off bottle of saline. It hurt quite a bit and remained sore for several weeks. I didn't stop using it as I am also not a fan of rest. I think you should keep using what hurts while being cautious. I do what I can tolerate and maybe a little more.

But the other day , opening another bottle of saline, it hurt real bad.

The pain is my middle finger, up to the middle knuckle, and lower at the base of the middle finger.

Swelling is located at the dorsum side of my hand between the metacarpal heads on the left and right of middle finger. Making a fist and squeezing is very painful. Squeezing and lifting isn't possible, I tried to pick up my sons ski's and couldn't without trial and error.

Any thoughts? Maybe this one needs rest??


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Kari.

1. Have you ice dipped it a bunch? If so, what happened?

2. Does it feel like you actually injured something (rip/tear), or is it just hurting badly without injury?

3. Is it the joint itself that hurts, or....?
Jan 05, 2017
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by: Anonymous

Hi! I'm a full-time student at college and work about 15-20 hours a week waitressing.

I just got diagnosed with tendonitis on my right wrist.

I'm a right-handed person. I'm curious to know if I have to quit being a waitress since I use my right arm for nearly everything at the restaurant?

I also have these huge balls of nerves that are painful and cause my wrist to look swollen.

Thanks for helping out!


"I also have these huge balls of nerves that are painful and cause my wrist to look swollen."

WHAT??? Say more about that. That doesn't sound good/normal/right.




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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous.

I personally wouldn't quit my job over some wrist tendonitis symptoms...I'd fix the problem causing the symptoms.
Jan 22, 2017
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by: John

I've been having pain on the dorsal side of my wrist with flexion and extension, although it is much worse with fingers extended.

If I flex/extend the hand with my hand in a fist the pain is not that bad. Any ideas why it would be different with fingers extended vs in a fist?


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Joshua Comments:

When fingers are extended certain muscles/structures are longer/shorter than when in fist position.

I imagine the muscles on the palm side of your forearm are too tight, such that when in a fist position they are in a shortened position they're not compressing your wrist like they are when fingers are extended and the muscles/tendons are 'longer' and tighter.

Make sense?
Feb 02, 2017
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by: Derek hein

I pushed a slide about 2 months ago and today I've been experiencing sharp pains in my pinky knuckle and it is also a little pushed in from the accident and I only get the pain while bending it up (sometimes) and bending it in a unnoticeable way is any one else getting this or is just me? And should I see a doc?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Derek.

If you think you broke something or actually have some damage, then you may want to go see a doc.

They're probably just tell you to rest and possible put you in a splint or brace, but it's not a bad thing to see what they have to say and to confirm whether or not there is some actual damage. (One can have pain without any damage.)
Feb 03, 2017
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by: Anonymous

I cant twist my wrist move up or down and every day my wrist knuckle stays swollen.

When moved wrong its like a numbing painful feeling and when i don't do nothing at all it will feel like on inside of arm its on fire to where it makes me cry.

I can't put weight on it or use it to pull myself up cant shake hand cause it start hurting.
Feb 26, 2017
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by: Anonymous

I have fallen from some height so, my right hand is unwilling to lift some height pls make me all right.


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Joshua Comments:

Did you break your hand/wrist?
Mar 19, 2017
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by: Tom

Hello

I've had pain in the top of my hand for about four years. I've had an x ray, no issues.

I am a timber farmer (carpenter) the pain is in my left hand ( I'm right handed) so the hand I hold a chisel. I realize my forearms are very tense due to the work I do.

I can't put any weight on it i.e. If I was doing a push up with my fingers flat on the ground, it pinches/stabbing pain about two fingers width from the wrist. It's not a problem if I use a fist so my wrist is straight.

Is there a possibility that the tenons rub and swell as a result of hitting a chisel?

The pain calms over night but I can never put any weight on it and resently I had a fall off a bike which seems to have Flared everything up.

Any thoughts all the doctors are offering is injections, which I want to keep as a last resort, in case they really effect my work!

Cheers


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Tom.

"Is there a possibility that the tenons rub and swell as a result of hitting a chisel? "

Do you mean you hit a tendon(s) with the chisel? Then yes absolutely that would be a problem.

But I think you mean just using a chisel in regular fashion, in which case, no.

Tendons 'rub and swell' because the muscle connected to them are chronically too tight and thus chronically putting too much constant tension on the tendon.

And then, that too tight muscle (already working too hard 24/7) is fatigued and it can't do it's job very well, and long story short, that causes a downward spiral of lack of function, pain, and problem.

Can't do pushups with your hands flat on the floor? It's because the muscles/connective tissue in your forearms are too tight and the pushup posiiton/pressure causes compression of the wrist and other negatives.

In your case, it sounds like some of the little wrist bones are stuck compressed (which sends a pain signal, etc). So (I surmise that) some of the back of your hand pain is from compressed bones and some is irritated tendons.


Along those lines.....

"I realize my forearms are very tense due to the work I do. "

Nope. It's not from the work you do. It's from the gradual progressive increase in the tendonitis dynamic: muscle and connective tissue tightness, inflammation, and nutritional lack.

The chronic tenseness is (part of) the problem. The physical actions required of your profession/hobby is not the problem.

So the good news is, keep on carpentering.

The 'bad' news is, is that you have a multi-factored dynamic in play that's causing pain and problem, and predictably will continue to do progressively so, a little better a little worse, ongoingly.

More good news is, it's totally reversible (or at least you can get rid of as much pain/tightness as you're motivated to do).

Presuming you're motivated and want to 'fix' your hand pain I suggest Reversing Wrist Tendonitis.


Let me know if you have any other questions.
Mar 20, 2017
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by: Anonymous

Hello,
I have had serious pain in both my hands for the past 4 years.

Recently the pain has been in my left hand and it is always located in the wrist where the arm meets the hand. The pain is bad when I push off a surface with my hand bent or if I squeeze.

I also have pain that extends to my fingers especially my thumb and index finger and any movement that involves the slightest amount of force would cause extreme stinging pain in my hand.

I had the nerve conduction test done, and the results were that I had no problems. The doctor I also saw said that I probably didn't have carpel tunnel.

I had a cortisone injection done to my right hand, but it seemed to just make matters worse.

I get flare ups in winter but it seems to be mostly random. The pain will usually be very quick and sharp and then it will throb for a minute or two and then go away for weeks to months. The past three days I have had the pain in my left hand and it hasn't gone away minutes after the pain like it usually does, instead every time I put pressure on my hand I get the pain and its been a constant flow of pain and throbbing.

I have tried to use deep heat gels which seem to help for a while, but I am really starting to wonder what is the cause of this and how I will be able to get rid of this.

I am wondering if my symptoms might be related to tendonitis because in the past month I also experienced a similar pain in my right foot that felt as if I had twisted my ankle but It was better after a few minutes if I kept pressure off of it. Any information would really help. thanks


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Joshua Comments:

Well, if you don't/didn't have numbness or tingling then you were never in any danger of having carpal tunnel syndrome.

No numbness/tingling, no Carpal Tunnel Diagnosis


So. It sounds like tendonitis or have some element(s) of Rheumatoid Arthritis Early Symptoms

Probably the former as you've had constant wrist pain for years.

The RA symptomology is more joint pain with 'comes and goes' and 'flare ups'.

So that's just something to factor in as a possible player (and you can have both dynamics at play, tendinitis and RA), and I just have your short description to work from.

Tendonitis is a progressive dynamic, so it makes total sense that you've had chronic wrist pain, and then pain/problem shows up elsewhere.

That's just how the tendonitis dynamic works. The Pain Causing Dynamic feeds on itself to make things tighter, keep inflammation active, and ongoingly deplete nutrition.
Apr 05, 2017
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by: trishdadish

I, like so many on here, have had a reoccurring pain on the top of my right hand. But my pain is located right below the knuckles between my pointer finger and middle finger, specifically between the bones. This pain is excruciating!!!

I mean yell out profanity, tourettes style in agony.

I've been experiencing this pain for years. It comes out of no where, and usually lasts intermittently for minutes.

Those terrors have been happening multiple times a day for the last 3-4 days. Then by the grace of God when the pain goes away, it can sometimes stay away for a long time, even multiple months can lapse between terrors.

I've never reached out about it before but these last terrors are SO bad, I'm looking at these Lyrcia commercials thinking can I use that?

I'm serious, and not making lite of people with nerve damage. I really feel like I have some nerve damage going on.

I do a lot of computer work and use my right hand to control my mouse with lots of scrolling. I've had ergo come out and assess my work station, but I do feel like my mouse has something to do with it.

I've thought about acupuncture which might help.

Or maybe an x-ray to see what's going on in there? I don't know. =( Any advise is greatly appreciate. Thanks! =)


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Trish.

1. I'm not a fan of Rest, but I am a fan of switching things up.

See: New Ergonomics Definition.

Switch mouse hands and see what happens.


2. It doesn't sound like nerve damage. Is there any reason to think it might be nerve damage?

Meaning, did you have a surgery or a crushing in jury or something?


3. If we shook hands right now and I squeezed, would that cause pain immediately, or a little while later?


4. Have you ever ice dipped a la How To Reduce Inflammation? When it's in a hurting phase, or when it's not?

If so, what happened? If not, I HIGHLY suggest the next time it's in a hurting phase, you ice dip like a crazy woman, meaning MANY MANY MANY times a day for a few days. The number of times you dip for 10-20 seconds will be a direct correlation to how motivated you are to stop the pain.


5. An xray probably won't do much for you, it only shows bone fractures or BIG soft tissue injury, and anything around your knuckles isn't big enough to have a rip big enough to show up on x ray (that's true enough to be true in this scenario).

And it's unlikely you have a fracture..unless you have an unhealing fracture....which is technically possible but very unlikely.

MRI would be a better bet.

The question is, are you hurting because you have an actual rip/tear injury? Probably not, because at least in theory your pain and symptoms would be more persistent.

Having said that, you could have something like a bone bruise in there (again, ever had a big impact or crushing event, or do a lot of rock climbing or bull riding [lots of grip strength and motion])?
Apr 12, 2017
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by: Lisa

Hi all I'm a 37 year old female.

I've had this wrist pain for over two months now.

I can feel pain pushing up from a chair in my wrist , I've no pain fingers pulled forwards, but real pain and weakness like it can't take it when you touch tip of little finger with tip of thumb.

I've pain down the side of my hand from under my little finger and pain at the base of my thumb and base of my hand next to wrist all the pain is on the palm side of my hand and not on the back, I struggle to pull heavy things out with my right hand now and tight bottle tops, my hand feels tight and a bruised feeling when touching the areas.

Making a fist and pushing my hand backwards hurts real bad and a little forwards.

Sometimes this pain runs up into my forearm too, my GP told me it probably strained but it's got worse now and it's over 2 months with no change but more painful after working with hands.

However my left hand is fine.

Any idea what's going on with me?

Many thanks 😀


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Lisa.

Did you 'do' anything to cause this? Any sports or impact event, rock climbing, etc?

Ultimately that doesn't really matter (the activity doesn't matter). Pain comes from tightness and inflammation and nutritional insufficiency.


The points there at the wrist that hurt get all the attention. But even if you were in a car accident and slammed your hand against the dash or whatever, much of the focus of recover should be on the forearm.

Wrist bones/joint can be bruised, and you might have a little bit of that, but mostly it sounds like wrist tendonitis dynamic, where your forearm muscles and connective tissue are TOO TIGHT, and that compresses the fingers and wrist.

So you make a fist and stretch it back and the overly short tissue gets overstretched, hurting tissue and compressing the wrist bones/joint.

I'd get to work with the Reversing Wrist Tendonitis program (see links on this thread/page).

Whether you have a strain (tiny rip/tear) or you don't, the program covers what needs to be done to get rid of pain and restore function.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Apr 26, 2017
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by: B

Hi years ago i had surgery on my left hand where they shaved my three bones thumb pointer and middle.

Recently I had a ganglion cyst same hand was hard and squishy about the size of a large marble.

It did go away after time but now I have almost no strength and my hand wrist and for arm feels like someone's squeezing it and my veins are trying to pop out.

I can't do a push up or if standing trying to put my hand flat on floor my arm gives and won't allow me to.

Please help my hand/wrist/arm are not swollen however feels like it is to the point of it exploding.

Any thoughts?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi B.

Why did they shave the three hand bones (which three bones?)?
Apr 26, 2017
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by: B

Not sure it was years ago i want to say back in 2000 I was in gymnastics and they said then it was tendonitis but shaved my thumb, pointer finger and middle finger.

At the time I believe I was 14 years and years ago i went several years without and issues until about 2 he's ago with the ganglion cyst it popped and now I have no strength and my hand and forarm feels like it's about to explode with horrible throbbing pain.

Not sure why I think I had tendonitis I injured it in gymnastics. They shaved my thumb pointer finger and middle finger. Any thoughts?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi B.

Tendonitis is a dynamic made up of multiple factors. You were young and very hand/arm active and like most kids, undernourished for that level of activity.

I can't imagine that that surgery wasn't unneccesary and overkill, but here we are.

The factors that caused your pain/problem then are the same problems that are causing your pain/problems now...plus the ganglion cyst.

So you need to reverse the tendonitis dynamic.

Where exactly is the ganglion cyst growing?
Apr 27, 2017
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by: B

Hi the ganglion cyst is on my wrist bone well almost like it's between where my wrist and hand would connect almost straight down from my index finger. The scar from my surgery is about 2 inches above the cyst.

It however is the size of a small bead but was literally the size of a large shooter marble or almost a ping pong ball it would change from hard to soft at touch depending on the day.


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Joshua Comments:

1. The cyst is growing in the bone, or floating in the soft tissue there in the joint?

2. The cyst is the size of a small bead right now, you mean?
May 14, 2017
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by: Bea

Hi I have been 2 yearsfrom the age of 17 in bed moving only with the help of my hands, 7 years in crutches and back to the chair/ bed each year after surgery.
I became tattooist out of boredom and cause I always draw and write.

From 25 I notice carpa tunnel, never got injection or tested yet, as I heard about exercising and magnesium ( I think it is).

The thing is it went away and came back a few times , yesterday I woke up and was on my finger/ knuckle. The one that you point things out with. I went to work and it didn't hurt that bad till went away cause I ignored it. Today it's there again.

I've put on a cast for Carla tunnel, and I'll go to the swimming pool later on. I mean let's find out how to correct posture and healthy eating.

Any other tips you can give me?
Doctores around here are not good if your not paying.


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Joshua Comments:

Why are you in bed since age 17 moving only with the help of your hands. (And what does that mean, exactly?)
May 21, 2017
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by: Bea

I meant I had been. I had an accident when I was 17 I was run over by a lorry. Despite this I am very athletic and made a full recovery.

My hand it's Better now. Used ice and ibuprofen. It was aparently ( cellulite as it was some red on the skin.)
It's better now today was my first day at work.

Thank you.


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Joshua Comments:

Ok, one super important tip is, see the Magnesium For Tendonitis link in this thread.

Stress of any kind including pain and/or getting run over by a car results in all sorts of mechanism that use up magnesium.

Without enough magnesium, your body can't operate properly (in many, many different ways).
Jun 02, 2017
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by: Anonymous

Two years ago my doctor said I had trigger thumb.could that make pain up my arm?


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Joshua Comments:

The factors that cause trigger thumb can also cause pain up the arm, yes.
Jun 11, 2017
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by: Anonymous barista

Hi, am a 23yr old female. My left wrist has been bothering me for years.

I have been a barista for the last 7 years so lots of repetitive movements. I am right handed so I do almost everything with my right hand. Although my left always plays up.

I always usually strap it and rest for few days and it's back to normal. Although this past week I am in so much pain... every morning I woke up my wrist was aching and couldn't put any pressure on it or pick up anything.

Now each day it's getting worse. I feel as if it's spreading. My knuckles feel tight and really sore not really swollen but aching constantly. I have been using anti inflammatory medication and also cream for weeks and have rested it but isn't helping one bit.

I now need to strap my hand constantly for daily activities. I don't know what the next step is. I cannot work because of this injury and it's not improving.

I was thinking I should maybe get an ultrasound to check the tendons aren't damaged. So painful:(


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonybarista.

It feels like it's spreading because it is spreading. That's how the tendonitis dynamic works.

Lack of nutrition, and the body can't work correctly.

Chronic inflammation releases chemicals that enhance your sensitivity to pain andtighten up muscles even more (the tighter a muscle is, the less well it can function).

Progressively tight muscle and connective tissue reduce function and increase irritability.


You could get an ultrasound, but it's unlikely you have any actual damage, and it's more likely that you're hurting because you're ability to function is decreasing (increasingly more inflammation, more tightness, less nutrition will do that to a gal).

I'd say your best next step is to get the Reversing Wrist Tendonitis program, and start doing what it tells you to do asap.

Your scenario is (almost certainly) 100% reversible, and isn't high tech, but you DO need to get to work on it. Rest and anti-inflammatories aren't going to make anything better.
Jun 17, 2017
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by: Anonymous

Ok so the thing is that on my right hand my pointer finger knuckle hurts and it feels numb but it hurts like a sharp thing is poking into my knuckle and going back out and its a just a repeating cycle and i dont know how to stop it..
plz can someone help me it hurts so bad :(


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Joshua Comments:

What have you done for it so far?

Why do you think it's hurting?
Jul 01, 2017
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by: Lfeoma

Hi Joshua.

Woke up one morning in the last week of February and just noticed a dull ache on my right wrist. I didn't think much of it as I put it down to an improper sleeping posture.

However, by March, the pain had worsened and worse still, progressed to the left wrist.

The pain has become so unbearable on the left wrist. I have gotten wrist braces for other hands, gotten a wrist brace to suppprt both hands, gotten keyboard and mouse support and a wrist grip resembling a plier to strenghthen my wrists..

These have however not helped. In fact my symptoms get worse per day. Recently, I wake up in the morning with a pain and dull ache up my arm and down to my elbow in both hands. This gives me cause for concern. It's been over 4 months with no relief.

Please help!!!!!!


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Joshua Comments

Hi Lfeoma.

Sounds like a tendonitis dynamic.

Wrist splints and braces aren't going to help.

'Strengthening' isn't going to fix anything because you're not hurting due to being weak (or, how does strengthening fix the causes of weakness?)

And if you're short of nutrition (which is very likely) and your body can't work right, then that obviously needs to be addressed if you want to get back to normal.

I'd start with my Reversing Wrist Tendonitis program.

Alternately, do a bunch of ice dips for a couple few days and let me know what happens with that. See the 'How To Reduce Inflammation' link in this thread.
Jul 03, 2017
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by: Gus

Hi!

I am a florist and have developed pain in my left wrist and index and middle finger. It is knuckles connecting the finger to the hand and the wrist which is at its worst if you bend your fingers forward towards the underside of the wrist. I struggle to lift a heavy handbag with that hand as it's weak. I can't bend my hand with fingers flat to the table.

Making a fist is fine, and there isn't any swelling. I am a florist so use this hand to hold the flowers when creating a bouquet so it is quite important and most of the weight is in the thumb and index finger using the middle finger to balance.

I have just had a weeks holiday and been away so haven't worked and it's still bad when I am not working although it isn't always constant it comes in waves. There is never pain in the inside of my wrist always the top.

Any help gratefully received.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Gus.

Read through this thread, then let me know if you have any questions.
Jul 29, 2017
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by: Anonymous

Hi,

I have horrible pain in both hands, wrists and arms up to elbows. At first, 2 dr. thought it was dequervains. After trying shots, steroids, braces with no luck I was sent to a rheumatologist who thinks it is some arthritis.

No medicine is working. It gets so much worse if I type (like now) I am so miserable. My knuckles hurt, wrist hurt and are weak, sharp pain off and on in forearms and ache in elbows, especially if I talk on the phone.

I don't know if its tendinitis, arthritis, overuse, smart phone syndrome, lymes, any suggestions?

Thanks so much!!


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous.

The rheumatologist put you on medicines because he thought maybe it was arthritis?

What kind of arthritis did he think it maybe was? Osteoarthritis or Rheumatoid arthritis?



If things are hurting worse and worse, that points that your body's ability to function is decreasing (which results in increasing pain and problem).

It sounds like your doctors have ignored the way the body works, and gave you the usual treatments hoping they'd help.

But they haven't.

So....

I suggest that you try the basics of getting your body working better again and see what happens. Via the Reversing Wrist Tendonitis program.

If you're suffering from a tendonitis dynamic, DeQuervain's (which is a tendonitis dynamic), or osteoarthritis (doesn't sound like you are, but it's from a tendonitis dynamic), even if your symptoms are severe, it's a simple mechanism that is reversible.

Splints, braces, corticosteroid injections, etc, do not reverse the dynamic.
Aug 11, 2017
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by: Anonymous

I have pain on The top of my hand by my index digit. It feels almost like a bruised sensation, but it's been going on for months.

When holding things sometimes I have to refrain from bending my index finger to give relief.

A little background history to my right hand/wrist is below:

I had an injury approximately 3 years ago to my right hand/wrist. I hyper extended it back when bracing it on a wall as a very strong dog was pulling on the leash in my left hand.

When it first happened, sure it hurt, but I assumed that was normal. After a week of it hurting, waking me up at night and sending discomfort all the way up my arm almost to my shoulder, I knew something wasn't right.

I had an a MRI, x-ray, PT/OT, nerve conduction test, and a last ditch effort, a cortisone shot.

The shot was the only that gave me relief. This was a grueling 1.5 of appointments, pt, follow ups at orthopedic surgeons who specialized in wrists, strength training because my grip had weakened. I wore a brace to help, but woke up in the night taking it off because it made the pain worse. I was told to take ibuprofen constantly, or they gave me a steroid gel to rub on the site to help.

Basically the end result was, they said I have "tendinitis of the wrist". I had to just live with this pain. Since it was a work injury, the dr said, "you may get some money for pain and suffering", I didn't want money, I wanted to be a normal 27 year old.

The pain always radiated from the pinky side of my wrist and on the underside. Now I've been experiencing pain on the top of my hand by my index knuckle. It just throbs, it typically hurts worse after being at rest, which was when my tendinitis flared up as well. It hurts to even try to open a jar.

Do you think this is related??


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous.

Do I think what is related to what?
Sep 11, 2017
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by: Christie Bustillos

I've been experiencing pain in my right hand swelling it starts in my three middle fingers and with a little pain when I stretch out the thumb and Pinky then it travels through the top of my hand to my wrist and to my forearm and there's swelling in the wrist and the top of the hand and the pain is Extreme.
Dec 09, 2017
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by: Ben Ruiz

I've had pain from my right index knuckle down to my base of my thumb joint for about a month.

I'm a shot and disc thrower and also weightlift so it ends up bothering me whenever I'm active. It hurts when pressure is applied to the inside on my hand on the index knuckle and it radiates down to the muscles at the base of my thumb.

It's both a sharp pain and it feels like if you put pressure on a bruise.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Ben.

So...what are you doing to fix that?
Dec 10, 2017
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by: Ben Ruiz

I've researched online to see if I could find any articles or something that could tell me what it is but found nothing. I haven't seen a doctor or anything because I'm not sure I can afford it.



Jan 10, 2018
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by: Teero

Hi I was holding a box (that was not heavy at all), and my right hand suddenly felt a sharp pain right on top of the knuckle of my middle finger.

It appears that the tendon "jumped the track" so to speak. I can see it move and when I go to make a fist the pain comes and it seem like the tendon is trying to move back in place but the pain is very intense.

I can still type type but brushing my teeth and holding a fork/spoon was an adventure. Could this be something that will just pop back into place or will I need to see a specialist?


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Joshua Comments:

Well....maybe the little bit of ligament holding teh tendon in place/in its groove tore...so now the tendon can't stay in it's groove.

Does that look/feel right?


Otherwise...the muscle attached to that tendon is too tight, is stuck too tight, and thus won't allow enough slack to the tendon...so it can't get into/stay in it's groove (because the muscle is too tight and constantly pulling on the tendon and thus there's no tendon 'play'/length available.
Mar 26, 2018
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by: Kim

I have had hand pain for almost a year. Started with swelling in the palm of my hand just below my thumb.

Had 2 steroid injections and the pain moved. Ended up on the top of my hand closer to the thumb that cause a lot of pain and swelling.

Injection done then no relief but then my thumb locked up and swelled a lot.

Went for second opinion. Was told I need a trigger release and the files my corporal boss. This never addressed the pain in the palm.

I have been dealing with pain still dr put me off giving me steroid cream and physical therapy. I am currently suffering alot of pain on the top of my hand more toward the pinkie finger and the wrist.

It hurts when I raise my fingers. Normally ibuprofen help but this barely touched it. Also the last couple of days I’ve had pain on the outside of my foot on the side it swells and there is localized tenderness. I have no idea what’s going on with my body.

I’m only 36 I have never been in so much pain please help.


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Joshua Comments

Hi Kim.

Read through this entire thread. Follow the links and read those pages too.

Come back with any questions you may then have.
Mar 30, 2018
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starstarstarstarstar 		Pain on top side of thumb, pointer and index finger
by: Larrence

I have shooting/electric pain that shoots up the top side of my middle finger and/or pointing finger and/or thumb almost exclusively when I am reaching for something. I have plenty of grip strength. The location of the pain is also numb at all times.

So if I simply reach for anything that requires I stretch out my whole arm, the pain could shoot down any of my fingers/thumb (except the pinky)

It's in both hands somewhat equally, so I've somewhat ruled out CTS for now. None of the simple at home tests indicates CTS.

It's getting near the stage of me not being able to reach at all for anything.

Thanks in advance...and yes I've read most of what's on your webpage and have't quite found an exact similarity with anyone else.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Larrance.

Good news/bad news, there doesn't need to be an exact match to you symptoms.

But from what you've described, it looks like the factors that cause Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (which is just a list of possible symptoms a few of which are needed to 'qualify' for a CTS diagnosis).

Meaning, tightness, nutritional lack, probably inflammation process.

All arranged and working in such a way that when muscles fire to grab something, the nerve gets touched/compressed/etc.

That can be anywhere or more than one place from neck to wrist.

And if the one spot is numb 24/7, then that's 24/7 compression of the nerve, which tells us that muscle etc is too short/tight 24/7, which tells us it's easy peasy for a little more contraction (reaching for something) to kick that nerve right in the teeth.

What to do about it? Remove the causative factors.

Do you have a sense that the compression/problem is at the wrist area or the neck/chest/shoulder area (or both)?
Apr 02, 2018
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by: Anonymous

Thanks for you response!

My gut feeling tells me it's in my neck or shoulders. So I'm going to try massage and chiropractic for a couple of weeks and see what transpires.


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Joshua Comments:

Keep us updated.
Apr 20, 2018
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by: Tracey

Sharp pain top of right hand between ring finger and pinky. Had same type of pain a while ago and it went away top of right hand between first and middle finger. Sharp pain when I press it (like mom used to say...then don't press it) but also when someone shakes my hand firmly, or when closing into a fist.


May 13, 2018
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by: Anonymous

Not sure what’s wrong!? No wrist injuries, and this is not a common reoccurring thing, it happens 2-4 times every month? And has for 5+ years, I’m not overweight!! A healthy 17 year old :) when I push down, to lift myself up, or something like this, I experience a really sharp and painful feeling in the bottom of my wrist that shoots up into my arm and shoulder, any idea what this might be? Thank you very much :)


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous17.

Are you hypermobile? (can you touch your thumb to your forearm, does your elbow go past a straight line when you straighten the arm/elbow, etc?)
May 17, 2018
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by: veronica b

i have chronic pain in my feet, hands, fingers, toe,s, knee,s hips, wrists elbow, i also have swelling in hands and feet, and the feeling of being on fire, i have suffered these symptoms now 4 the past 8 years , every day is a day with pain, my drs dont have a clue on what is causing it, does any 1 else have the same condition ? if so could u share your story plz


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Hi Veronica.

Do you have diabetes?

Do you have heart issues like heart failure/congestive heart failure (that can cause swelling)?

What is your vitamin D level? (Surely your doctors have checked that).

Where exactly to you have the feeling of 'being on fire'?
May 31, 2018
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by: Anonymous

I’m concerned about what my dr has said not making sense my wrist hurts to move and I can feel a shooting pain up my arm.

It don’t go away and gets worse when I wear the brace they gave me. We have done X-rays with no break, but it is not getting better.

Actually it is getting worse it is still swollen and discolored is bruises and pale it also don’t lay straight when I put my hands out in from of me palms to the ceiling my left hand lays straight finger tips out and my right hand acts as if it wants to grab the left and hold it.

It hurts to move put pressure on or even sometimes just relax with it please help my dr keeps trying to evade or say it’s a pinched nerve.


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Joshua Comments:

If it's a pinched nerve, that means tight muscles are clamping down on it. Loosen up the tight muscles, nerve pinch goes away.

Did you fall on it? Sleep funny on it? Has this happened before? Do you have other health issues?
Jun 04, 2018
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by: Jessica

Hello there. I've been experiencing something similar to majority of these posts as well.

I sometimes get woke up at night from pretty significant pain and numbness in my hands, mainly my right hand.

My fingers swell and go numb and if I dare try to make a fist, espically with my right hand it brings me to tears.

The pain seems to be worse in the area between my thumb and pointer finger. This has been occouring for roughly 6 years now but the past week or two has been by far the worst yet.

Anytime I bend my arm even in the slightest it causes my hand to go numb almost instantly, within 6 to 10 seconds and the pain starts up as well. Keeping my arm and elbow stright gives me most relief but it's impossible to do day to day tasks trying to keep my arm straight.

I've done some online research and came across this site and would love to hear your thoughts when you have a moment. Thanks for your time and hope to hear from you soon.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Jessica.

History of car accident, sporting accident, falling down the stairs, falling off a horse, etc?

Ever broke a bone (arm, shoulder, etc?)

Does this happen at night while sleeping on your back, side, both sides, stomach, etc? Do you sleep with your body on top of the arm?

What have you tried to help fix this, and how'd that go?
Jun 10, 2018
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by: Juma B.

I am 43 years old. I have symptoms where I have pain in the whole hand. It started with a trigger finger in the middle finger of the right hand immediately after I joined the gym and started doing weights.

Then I started having aches and pains in both my hands. pain in the finger joints, frequent swellings at the base of the finger, wrist pain and general loss of mobility in both the hands quite frequently.

Since then I have stopped working out in the gym. The doctors prescribed some tendon medicine called tendocare but didn't go a long way. I have frequent flare ups every now and then. I have backpain and plantar fascitis as well but not as debilitating.

My mother has arthritis but none of the blood reports and x rays suggested that I have developed the condiiton yet or even rheumatoid arthritis. My blood glucose levels, thyroid and vitamin D levels are all normal.


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Joshua Comments:

What exactly is your Vitamin D3 level?

Tendocare wouldn't go far, as it doesn't target the cause of the pain/problem.

Like trigger finger, arthritis (osteoarthritis not rheumatoid arthritis) is a symptom of the tendonitis dynamic: too tight muscle and connective tissue, chronic inflammation process, lack of nutrition.
Jun 28, 2018
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starstarstarstarstar 		Back of hand and fingers only
by: Eddie

I have pain in back of my hand and fingers only. At night it wakes me up as both hands fall "asleep". Pins and needles in all fingers and back of both hands. And it feels swollen, but doesnt look swollen.

I read previous posts on different movements, i can perform them all without problem as there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with my wrists. There is never any pain or defeciency in my arms or wrists or palms. Only the tops of my hands and fingers. It actually feels a temporarily better if i pump my hand in a fist motion.


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Joshua Comments:

That could simply be a lack of nutrition thing, but I'm guessing that you have issue up at your neck that is impinging the nerves down the arms.

How do you sleep? On back or sides or both? Big pill or little pillow?

When do you notice the hand symptoms?
Aug 25, 2018
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by: Robin

I have pain in between the bones of my ring finger and pinky finger on top of my right hand. Nothing with my wrist. Not my knuckles either no numbness or tingling just pain in between the bones. I'm right handed as well and work on computers all day.
Sep 06, 2018
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by: Ellie

I'm 18 years old and worked as a waitress. My left wrist has been playing up now for around a year. It can be a mixture of sharp and aching pains and can come and go, with intervals of sometimes days and sometimes weeks.

I worked as a waitress for 5 years and recently stopped and did bar work instead partially due to my wrist pain. The pain is on the left side of my wrist (pinkie side) and can be very painful to move however I feel no tenderness or pain to touch it. It does swell quite frequently also.

When it's sore I will wear a wrist support, but for the last week or so I've had to wear a brace all the time as it's been too painful. I don't think it's broken as I've done nothing to break it as such.

I have put it down to RSI before but now thinking there's something a bit more serious.


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Joshua Comments:

Why do you think it might be something more serious that 'repetitive strain injury'? RSI can become 100% debilitating (even without any actual rip/tear injury, and RSI rarely has actual rip/tear).
Sep 07, 2018
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starstarstarstarstar 		Carpentar and guitar player with tendonitis or carpal tunnel?
by: Grant J

Ive recently over the last 3 weeks developed pain in the wrist (center and pinky side) as well as all the tell tale signs of carpal tunnel/ tendonitis. Pain and tightness in the forearm as well as fingers, palms etc. My fingers feel tender and sore like the bone is bruised even on the knuckles. Knocking on doors/ glass etc cant even happen at the moment.

I work as a window installer and carpenter, 2 weeks ago i hit something with a hammer (side on) and had the worse pain down the outside of my wrist and hand.

I had to stop instantly and havent played guitar since. This has been going on a while i think, i felt like both hands were fatigued alot quicker whilst playing than in the past.

Also , my neck muscles between my head and shoulder seemed to ‘lock’ sometimes when i was working in compromising positions...

I'm worried this is going to be forever as i LOVE to play. In 36 and been playing since i was 12. Giving up isnt an option i will beat this somehow.

First steps have been magnesium citrate and calcium citrate supplements and occasional wear of a brace.

Any sort of help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Grant


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Joshua Comments:

Well, it just might be forever unless you fix the problem(s).

Neck locking up, that's muscles too tight and too fatigued (can't hold the head up very long because they're already tired, and the locking is them seizing up in panic), and nutritional insufficiency plays a big role there

Notice how that correlates with your experience of your hands getting tired sooner and sooner. Same thing.

Imagine how that plays a role when you hit with the hammer wrong....your muscles couldn't respond adequately and then they did and are still freaking out.

The sore knuckles is from the inflammation process, tons of pain enhancing chemical getting pumped out into the arm/hand...and thus your neuroreceptors are on edge/way more sensitive then they normally would be.

I'd get the Reversing Guitar Tendonitis program (it's very very similar to the Reversing Wrist Tendonitis program, so don't worry about the title.

It's the best suggestion/help I have for you. You have a multifactored dynamic at play, you need a complete blueprint to fix it.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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