Worse than before carpal tunnel surgery


(Green Bay WI)

I had carpal Tunnel surgery on both hands 7 months ago, which were severe.


The only good thing about the surgery is that I can sleep at night. My hands don't go numb. But until recently, my right fingers are starting to tingle at night already.

But since the surgery my hands hurt almost all the time. My left hand gets shocks in the wrist everytime I bend it, and my right hand has a dull to moderate ache all the time.

Both of my palms are so tender from scar tissue yet, that it is even hard for me to clap.



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Joshua Answers:


I'm sorry to hear that.

I wonder how much of your Carpal Tunnel Symptoms are from Process of Inflammation, and how much is from the dynamic where Inflammation Causes Vitamin B6 Deficiency.

I wonder how much of your numbness and tingling symptoms are from constriction up and your neck and shoulder.

I wonder how much worse the Carpal Tunnel surgery made your Pain Causing Dynamic.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Most people tend to think that surgery will just magically fix everything back to normal.

As you've illustrated, such is rarely the case.


Have you Ice Dipped at all, as described on the How To Reduce Inflammation page?


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Jul 12, 2017
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starstarstarstarstar 		Pins and needles after having surgery twice on the same hand
by: Lisa

Hi

I had carpal tunnel surgery twice in the same hand. First time was in 2015 and the second time was oct nov last year. After having both surgeries I still have pain and still experiencing pins and needles.

I have carpal tunnel in my other hand but don't want to get that one done when the surgery didn't work the first and second time.

Just wondering if there is anything that can be done to eliminate the pain pins and needles

Cheers
Lisa


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Lisa.

There's lots that can be done (even on the side that's had surgeries.

I'd start with this thread for education, and ultimately suggest the Carpal Tunnel Treatment That Works program.
May 29, 2016
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starstarstarstarstar 		3 years after bi lateral carpal tunnel release
by: Tom

I had a bilateral carpel tunnel release about 3 years ago. I was aware that after the operation my wrists felt weaker than they used to.

I work in a heavy manual labour job when I lift something heavy I feel an immediate stress on my wrist bones that I did not feel prior to the operation. I am also experiencing symptoms of carpal tunnel again in both wrists.

I don't think further surgery is the answer or an option, anti inflammatory drugs and duct tape seem to ease the pain just fine.
May 28, 2016
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starstarstarstarstar 		8 months carpal tunnel post op on both hands and I'm still not working !
by: Melanie

I was told I have carpel tunnel back in 2012.

Dealing with workers compensation is a nightmare!

Finally was approved for surgery on my left hand Dec 2014 and then my right hand six weeks later.

Around that time they started PT on my left hand.

Extremely sore with a large scar on both my hands. I've had pain and aching since my surgeries in both of my hands. I still have shooting pains into my fingers and when I actually use my hands they start to cramp and close up.

My hands still wake me up in the night.

I've had continued PT and at this point have less strength then before the surgeries.

I have like a surge when I move my arm or reach for something that shoots up my arm and into my armpit. Nerve study showed the carpel tunnel is normal at this point.

I am now waiting for a report from a functional performance assessment to find out what permanent restrictions my doctor is going to put me on. He has said there is nothing more he can do for me.

I'm tired of constant pain and discomfort and limited flexibility and strength. I wish I would have never had the surgeries! I've lost 8 months of seniority and now I have no medical insurance because it was a benefit for working with the company.

I am at a loss as to what I'm supposed to do next to try to get my hands back.

Melanie


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Melanie.

I'm sorry to hear all that.

The problem with carpal tunnel surgery is that it ignores all the actual causes of the symptoms of 'carpal tunnel syndrome' (and the causes of the causes of symptoms), and in many cases, makes things worse.

It ignores the nutritional insufficiency. It ignores the chronic process of inflammation. It ignores all too tight muscle and connective tissue (except for where it actually cuts).

And it can/does make those three factors worse.

At least your doctor admitted there's nothing more he can do for you. Which is unfortunately only true because surgery and PT are the only tools in his very limited tool box.

Did you have the 'surge' before surgery? It is either coming from up at the neck, or is being triggered down in the forearm due to the three factors listed above.

As long as the nerve itself wasn't injured, most everything should be at least mostly reversible and probably totally reversible. It will take some time and effort.

But you need to go after it seriously. I suggest the tools you'll find in The Carpal Tunnel Treatment That Works program.


See Related: Recent Carpal Tunnel Surgery Still Have Weakness Pain And A Grinding Feeling

See Related:Carpal Tunnel Hand Surgery On Right And Left Hands Didn't Work
Jan 23, 2013
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starstarstarstarstar 		More pain after left hand carpal tunnel surgery than before
by: Nicole B

I have carpal tunnel in both hands, they did my dominant hand first(that being my left hand). At first I felt great, I healed faster then most according to my doctor. Was able to do things almost immediately.

Now I have a constant pain in the palm of my hand. Though the tingling and numbness is gone. I can't write cause it hurts, cannot lift certain things without pain. Often have a constant ache in my hand and fingers.

If I pick something up or twist my wrist a certain way it feels as if something is stabbing me in the hand. I didn't sign up for this crap. If I knew it would feel like this I would of rather of not had surgery done at all. And I am not going to have the surgery done in right hand if this keeps up.

I have read a lot of reviews most complaining about the surgery and the end results being worse then what they started with.

Curious, if there are many good things to say about this surgery. Will the pain eventually go away all together?? Any comments will be helpful. :)


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Nicole.

There are some good things to say about carpal tunnel surgery in that some people have amazing results, but in my experience, most don't.

And 'success' is rated by 'a reduction in symptoms' as opposed to a 'complete cure'.

Even some patients post surgery consider their operation a success when some or all of their symptoms remain or come back. See My Carpal Tunnel Surgery Was A Success, Was It Really? for an example of that.

Surgery cuts flesh. It's a wound. It causes it's own set of problems. It's not the magical cure all the medical community presents it as.

See: Carpal Tunnel surgery for more on that topic.

Also, in addition to surgery side effects you still have all the factors that caused the original Carpal Tunnel Symptoms (see that page for explanations for each of the symptoms).

That's why the answer to your question of 'will it ever heal completely and all the pain will go away?' is, for the most part, 'No.'. Less symptoms maybe, but from what you've described, it's incredibly unlikely that you'll ever experience 'as good as new' again unless you do the work to fix it yourself.



Can you reverse the downsides of carpal tunnel surgery wounds? As long as a nerve wasn't nicked, yes, for the most part one can. By doing the same sort of self care that would have helped on avoid surgery in the first place (ironically enough).
Jan 23, 2013
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starstarstarstarstar 		Carpal Tunnel Surgery Operation Side Effects
by: Lady Marion

Hi I had carpal tunnel operation 5 weeks ago and my whole hand is going into spasm mostly every night and it can happen daily and I have wrist pain and sore fingers now I do have cerebral palsy but I never had any problems or spasms in my hand before surgery

I am also diabetic even taking diazepam and quinine and codamol tablets my hand is still going into spasm once it last 2 days is this a common problem having severe painful spasms after carpal surgery operation.

Regards
Lady Marion


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Lady Marion.

1. Carpal Tunnel Release Surgery doesn't fix any of the causes of carpal tunnel problems, so those are still at play.

2. Obviously, you need to fix that diabetes. Which is doable, regardless of your doctors declaring it's impossible to 'cure'.

3. Maybe you have cerebral palsey, maybe you're just VERY nutritionally deficient. You're definitely deficient, in either case.

Get your Vitamin D level taken and let me know the result.

See: Magnesium For Tendonitis

And learn How To Reduce Inflammation

Also, see: Carpal Tunnel Release Done Symptoms Worse 3 Years Later

Also, see: Two Months After Mini Release Carpal Tunnel Surgery No Improvement
Jun 06, 2012
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starstarstarstarstar 		more pain after carpal tunnel surgery and chronic back pain
by: Scott

My wife had surgery a year and a half ago now the pain is getting worse what can we do i hate to see her in so much pain.

I'm a chronic pain person with back i know what pain feels like and my wife had upper and lower back pain i would appreciate any help at all thank you.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Scott.

Read through the threads on this page: carpal-tunnel-surgery-stories

That will give you lots of info.

I suspect you both have nutritional insufficiency/deficiency going on, that's a factor.

Also, read through the page and all the pages linked to from the Carpal Tunnel Syndrome page.
Feb 11, 2012
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starstarstarstarstar 		when should the pins and needles sensation disappear after surgery
by: Kim

when should the pins and needles sensation disappear after surgery?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Kim.

Well, that just all depends.

Why are there pins and needles?

Were there pins and needles before the surgery?

More or less pins and needles after the surgery?

Did the surgeon nick a nerve with a sharp object?

How long has it been since your carpal tunnel surgery?

Are the pins and needles coming from compression at the wrist, forearm, or neck?
Dec 22, 2011
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starstarstarstarstar 		Scar tissue 8 wks postop
by: AJP

I have excessive scar tissue buildup after CTS. Have started OT and seems to be helping minimally. The tip of my middle finger is still "tingling".

Will this eventually go away?

Will a steroid injection help? Thanks...


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Joshua Comments:

Hi AJP.

Corticosteroid Injections may reduce symptoms for a while, but it won't fix or cure anything.

Will it eventually go away? Probably not. Maybe. But you have pain and other symptoms for structural reasons. It's not like you have a cold that will just go away as your body takes care of it.

Your body is failing to take care of this effectively. It needs help.

It might go away, don't get me wrong, but if there is scar tissue building up, etc, that's a clue that things aren't going the way you want them to.

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