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Help identifying inner elbow pain, can't straighten arm

by Barry Allen
(Rockville MD)

Barry's elbow pain location anatomy graphic

Barry's elbow pain location anatomy graphic


I am a 39 year old male and live in Maryland. I am in good physical health. Average weight. Average height. No medical history. Pretty much problem free my entire life.

Several days ago I woke up with minor pain in my left arm / elbow. It was an unusual pain meaning that I could not identify the exact location of the pain. Honestly, I couldn't tell if it was coming from my elbow, bicep or forearm. There was a slight increase in pain when straightening my arm but nothing alarming.

I did not work out prior or exercise, fall or bump my arm to explain the pain. It wasn't severe, I figured I slept on it wrong or something, so I ignored it.

The next day it hurt worse with much more pain when trying to straighten my arm and due to the severity of the pain, I was now able to identify the location of the pain.

The pain SEEMS to be coming from directly where my arm bends (crelbow???) to about 1 inch towards my bicep. Also on the inside of my elbow (1 inch towards my bicep) closest to my body when my palm is facing up. Again I ignored it with the exception of getting into my hot tub and letting the water jets massage away at the point of pain. It seemed to lessen the pain but only temporary.

The following day... even worse pain. Could't straighten my arm and now with a sharp stabbing pain coming from the left side of my crelbow (or the part of the arm directly opposite of the elbow that creates the interior angle of the elbow.) Now, maybe, I also feel some discomfort in my forearm but I can't be sure. It may just be the throbbing pain coming from my elbow/bicep.

1 day later.... same symptoms only worse and now the pain is becoming unbearable. I have an appointment with my doctor but based on what I have heard from others, this my not help as much as expected and I may be in for a long road ahead depending on the actual cause of the problem.

Do you have ANY suggestion as to what this can be? Possible treatment? The pain is not getting any better. The pain is constant 24 x 7 to the point of not being able to sleep through the night.

The pain is very severe when trying to straighten my arm and I did nothing to damage or injure my arm.

I can say that if I slowly straighten my arm, the pain go's away a little then I can move my arm (like a simulated bicep curl) without the stabbing pain. I don't have any issues with hand strength in that arm or pain in my wrist or fingers. I don't have weakness in my arm or increased pain when curling with a weight. Only time pain increases is just when straightening my arm.

Thank you in advance for your time.

P.S. I have been known to sleep with my head ON my arm. Sort of using my bicep like a pillow of sorts. My arm will be pointing towards the headboard of the bed and bent with my forearm and hand following the headboard up towards the ceiling.

I have woken up in the past with my arm in pain from it falling asleep due to this... just not recently or within the last year. I have also been known to sleep with my arm in the same position under my pillow. It isn't intentional.... just seems to happen that way during the night.

I don't know if I slept this way in the past week or not or if that caused my situation.

I attached a picture. The circle on the thumb side is where there is a shooting when I straighten my arm.

The circle on the pinky side is where there is a shooting pain if I press in with my fingers. The area between and including both circles is where it hurts 24x7 but it isn't a shooting pain.

Thank you for your time.



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Joshua Answers:


Huh. Interesting. Can't say I've heard this particular scenario before.

1. If you were having a heart attack, you'd know by now, I think.

2. Doesn't sound like Tendonitis at all.

3. If you had a deep vein thrombosis (blod clot) in your arm from sleeping on it weird, that would give you this kind of pain....but it's not likely.

Now, if you had swelling, or redness, or you just had surgery, or other physical ailments/illnesses/disabilities that would be different. If you were REALLY concerned about it you could go get an DVT ultrasound test.


4. It hurts when you straighten your arm only. And when at rest. But NOT when you do a bicep curl or other actions?

That's kind of weird. (meaning, not common.)



At this point, I'm going with that some part of your muscle(s) is stuck in spasm. As in, you have a killer trigger point (bunch of muscle fibers stuck constantly firing).

That you can straigten it slowly with less pain than if you straighten it quickly, that is one clue towardst that.

Between Inflammation setting neuro-receptors on edge, and spastic muscle not liking anything fast or surprising, that makes sense to me.


Tell me more about what's going on.



Until then:

1. Feel around in your triceps and biceps area, and look for a little, pea or smaller sized nodule of TIGHT, SPASMY muscle. It will be hiding in there, and will be very active, tight, and potentially set of pain and bigger spasm if you get on it.

If you find it (could have more than one), give it static pressure until something happens. Ideally, it will *poof* let go and disappear.


2. Read about and dose up with some Magnesium.


3. Drink a lot more water for the next week.


4. Keep poking around till you find a hot spot. Chances are, there's just something stuck in spasm and it's not letting go.


5. If you can, ice the hell out of the arm. 5 gallon bucket full of arctic cold ice water, if you can even get your arm deep enough in it. Frozen water bottle massage is a good secondary option.


6. Keep me updated. Ask any other questions.




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Dec 08, 2009
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Get it resoved?
by: Anonymous

To the OP, did you get this resolved? I am having exactly the same thing.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous.

No response back from the original poster.

If you want to take their place, since you have the same thing, jump right in.



Dec 21, 2009
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Similar pain
by: Anonymous

Last night I was showing off in front of my daughter. (she's a dancer) Well she was dancing and I told her to get out of the way. Well I started dancing like I did 15 years ago.

Late last night and so far this morning I cannot straighten my arm. Anyway I try to straighten it (side ways, curls) it hurts.

Also I noticed last night that it seemed cold. I can bend it some but once it gets to a certain point, that's it and it hurts when it gets to that point.

I've been bending it some so far this moring and right now it almost has a burning sensation.

Haven't decided what to do. Do I go to the doctor? Do I just rest it for a day or so and then make my decision?

Anyways, I was curious about it so thought I'd look it up online and found this site. My problem is similar to this so I thought I'd share and see what comments I'd get to my injury.


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Joshua Comments:


Hi there Similar Pain.

Well, right off it sounds like you just tweaked something and the nervous system locked you up, added in some Inflammation Process too (that's the burning sensation).

Muscles in the biceps area locked up, everything tight (restricting circulation causing the cold feeling)

Potentially you have some involvement up at the front of the neck and chest/shoulder that could be stepping on the hose of the arteries/nerves (the cold feeling, any numbness or tingling)

I'm certainly not going to tell you not to go to the doctor, but what are they going to do other than tell you to rest for a few days and take some anti-inflammatory drugs?

I would:

1. Get a 5 gallon bucket and fill it with ice/frozen water bottles so it's Artic Cold. And Ice Dip as many times as you can today and tomorrow, maybe the next day too. See How To Reduce Inflammation.

2. Lay backwards (gently) over a big blow up exercise ball, or chair, or a few pillows, with your head hanging back and down, and your arms out and down (the opposite of sitting hunched over at a desk). Slow, gently stretch.


3. Massage the forearm and biceps. A little bit at a time, over and over, all day again for the next few days.


4. Get and take some Magnesium. Make sure to read the Magnesium Dosage page for what kind and how much.

-Probably- this will resolve and relax if you just left it alone, but there's no reason for you not to help it along. And it seems that things like this never -fully- resolve, even if the pain is gone. Really they are a clue that your structure is too tight, and ready to do this again if you 'over do it'.

Keep us updated on what you do and how it goes!



Dec 26, 2009
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RIGHT ARM INNER ELBOW PAIN
by: Matt



Thanks for posting a similar/identical sounding ailment/symptoms that I share with Joshua.

I'm an extremely healthy athletic 53 year old male and a new motorcycle rider.

I have had a sporadic stabbing pain in the area where my tricep, bicep and elbow meet. It is more pronounced in the morning upon waking up. Straightening my arm is painful. I got some temporary relief with an ice pack placed around above and below the elbow joint. I had arthroscopic hand surgery ten months ago on my right hand to trim some torn and shredded ligamentS in my wrist bones. I received a local arm block for anesthesetic. I also had pins in my hand for two months that ocassionally caused an odd nerve pain down the outside(heel) of the same hand. That sensation subsided 4 months post surgery and many physically therapy sessions later. I restored all the strength and muscle tone in my hand, arm and shoulder. I just got home from a 40 mile round trip motorcycle ride and the pain hit me to the point of doubling me over. I have a high tolerance for musculoskeletal pain.

Tomorrow I will get a Shiatsu massage treatment and tell the therapist about my current problem. More to follow after the session.

Thanks for the information exchange.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Matt.

Great.

Let me know what the shiatsu guy/gal says, and more info.



Dec 28, 2009
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Important question- new thread
by: Jeff

I'm a 24 year old male who has never been injured but have always wondered my arms don't full extend( they never have since i can remember) for example if i put my arms straight out in front of me and make first and touch my first together there is about a 1.5-2ft gap between my elbows. There are times random times where 1 elbow or both will be even worse and i cant even get it half way extended it actually hurts now this is rare it happens maybe once a month at most but i don't understand it. i talked to a doctor once and he took test for something not sure what it was blood test and said he found nothing unusual. But this also happens in other joints too at random like my wrist will be really tender and sore or my knees but like i said the pain is rare maybe like 1 time a month at most usually even less then that.


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Hey Jeff.

Do me a favor and submit the text above into a new submission on the Ask The Tendonitis Expert page.

Add in history and symptom details. Your question deserves it's own thread/conversation, and is a different issue than this one.

Talk to you shortly!

edit: Here's that conversation - elbow-tendonitis-24-year-old-male-and-never-been-able-to-straighten-elbows



Dec 30, 2009
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inner elbow pain, problem straightening arm
by: Anonymous

Hi, I noticed this morning when I woke up a pain in my inner elbow.

When trying to straighten my elbow I get a sharp pain that runs up my arm. The pain occurs right before the arm is fully extended.

My arm will eventually straighten all the way but I have to somewhat rub it to get it to loosen up.

When my elbow is in a relaxed position it has a throbbing pain which I'm assuming comes from the sharp pains of trying to straighten it.

The only cause I can think of is sleeping on it wrong since I have a tendency to sleep on my right arm. I have woke up a couple times to find my whole right arm numb from sleeping on it.

I'm a healthy 22 year old male and did not hurt it during a physical activity.

Any suggestions?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Right Arm Sleeper (you didn't leave a name, so I gave you one:)

Well, in general it sounds like your biceps muscles are too tight, and spastic (stuck too tight, stuck in spams).

1. Learn about Magnesium for Tendonitis.

2. Self massage and ice massage, the latter described on the How To Reduce Inflammation page.

3. Stop sleeping on your right arm. Sounds obvious and it is, and there's probably more to the story, but start with the above three and let me know how things go.




Jan 14, 2010
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Too much computer time? New question about straightening elbow from Elaine
by: Elaine

Hi! I found this page as I was looking up info on a similar pain, but I'm not too positive.

I work at a desk for most of the day, elbows rested on my desk, which is about elbow height. When I'm at home on the couch on the laptop, my posture is worse.

After a few hours of the laptop yesterday, I noticed I couldn't straighten out my arm fully without pain. I can't fully identify where it is - seems like inner elbow and just a bit of the crook of the elbow if my palm is facing up.

This morning it seems to be a bit worse and straightening it or even trying to push a door open hurts it.

When it's bent at rest, it doesn't seem to hurt it.

Should I follow the same course of advice - ice, Mag, etc?

Should I try to keep the arm straight or keep it bent at rest? At what point do I see a dr? I appreciate any help!

Thanks!


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Elaine.

I certainly spend a lot of time on the couch with my laptop too....like as I comment on your question.

You could just have a temporary tweak, a glitch, and it'll go away in a few days.

And even so, if it happens once, it's predictable that it will show up again somewhere down the road. It's not Tendonitis necessarily, but it sounds like there's some level of irritation and muscle tightening. Muscles get tighter and tighter over time.

So if you're having inner elbow pain and a problem straightening your arm, let's talk about what to do if/when that happens.

1. Yes, make sure you have enough Magnesium in you.

2. Ice Massage that pupply as described on the How To Reduce Inflammation page.

3. Keep the arm moving. Straighten, bend, repeat. Stretch it some (just straightening it might do that). Keep it moving, don't immobilize it.

4. When to see a doctor? Only your doctor can advise you on that:)


Does that help?



Jan 23, 2010
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Same pain in arm & can't extend Fully
by: GW

I have the exact same pain in my right arm by the elbow. I can't extend it with palm up without pain. The post by Barry with the photo reference described the issue exactly.

I recently had a lumpectomy of the right breast and sentinal node biopsy. Yesterday at my post op appt I described a spot that felt like a swollen vien in my chest above my right breast to the doctor. She said it was a thrombosis and did not seem concerned so I did not take notice of it.

Pain started in my right arm yesterday afteroon and has gotten steadily worse. I have been spending much time on computer and texting so I thought it could be that.

My arm is not disclored or red but my fingers are cold. Should I be concerned about a clot?


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Joshua Comments:


Hi GW.

First off, I HIGHLY recommend that you check out the Vitamin D pages at www.Easy-Immune-Health.com.

There is a huge correlation between Vitamin D deficiency and breast cancer, and immune system function and health in general.

ABSOLUTELY get your Vitamin D level checked, and then get your Vitamin D level UP. (You may or may not have to make your doctor OK this for you).


Well, I'm not a doctor, so my first reaction to "It's a thrombosis." would be to worry about it. It's a blocked artery/vein. Not a good idea, and causes pain.

Having said that, with lumpectomy and the removal of lymph nodes etc, the circulatory system and fluid/tissue in the area can get really boggy and marshy (as opposed to flowing smoothly like a river). A small thrombosis in this area may not be a problem other than causing pain (which is a problem).

I also don't know how extensive the lumpectomy was. If it's just a little biopsy, that's one thing, if it's a big chunk removal, that's another story entirely. Lumpectomies can really mess up ecology of the whole (large) area.

I'm not an expert on that, I'd get a second opinion from a breast/lumpectomy/lymphatic system expert. If the fingers on just the one side are cold, that could be from circulatory blockage, lymph flow problems...a whole host of possibilities.


As far as the arm straightening thing, that could absolutley be related, or could be totally separate. Pain makes things tighten up. I would massage the bicep and under the bicep.

Also, pay attention. If the chest gets worse -and- the elbow get worse together, that's a clue.

1. Self massage.

2. Lymphatic drainage specialist.

3. Vitamin D, Magnesium and Magnesium Side Effects.

Jan 23, 2010
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Inner elbow pain
by: Anonymous

I woke up this morning with the same exact pain. Slept on left arm and now it hurts to bend and extend. ibpropherin seems to help some. There must be a name or cuase for this. Blood restriction? Pinched nerve?


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Joshua Comments:


I rather imagine that you slept on your arm in such a way that it was working (meaning, muscles were contracting and pushing against you/the bed) for a long period of time.

Kind of like holding up a barbell all night while you sleep. If it was a bent elbow with weight on it, then your structure was working to avoid getting crushed for a long period of time, or the joint itself was overstretched/compressed/unhappy for all that time.

It happens. Obviously, stop sleeping like that:)

Keep it moving/wiggling throughout the day and literally help it loosen up.



Feb 28, 2010
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Same Problem
by: VChaggar

Every morning I hang on my chin-up bar for a few seconds to stretch out after getting out of bed.

Today I done my usual routine and after 20 minutes I have a similar discomfort in my right arm. I am unable to straighten my arm without feeling a sharp pain just below the bicep, on a similar point to the picture at the top of the webpage.

Any comments would be appreciated,
thanks


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Joshua Comments:

Hi VChaggar.

Well, I doubt you 'injured' your self, but it does make sense that over time tissue has gotten tighter and tighter, and you've been getting out of bed and putting all your weight on your arms.

When you get out of bed in the moring, metabolically you're at your 'coldest', meaning tissue is less mobile and squishy than when you're up and moving around for a while.

So first thing in the morning, without any warm up, you are putting lots of strain on tight structures.....

Probably your body just switched into 'high defense' mode, where it's making you hurt to stop you from injuring yourself more.


The simple answer is self massage the area, frequently, and ice.

Time will likely make the pain go away, but in my experience, once you go over the edge into pain....it will likely come back. And you can either learn to live with it, or learn to keep it away/at bay/in the background where it's not an issue.



Mar 03, 2010
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similar pain?
by: hard to stretch

For years now, I have been having similar pain in my elbows.

If one of my children falls asleep on my arm and is putting pressure on it, the elbow seems to "lock up".

It starts to hurt and it is very hard for me to straighten my arm out, the muscles or tendons seem to be dry and grinding when I straighten.

Now the problem has been happening during the night or when I wake up in the morning, and now tonight as I sit at my desk with my elbow in the same position for an extended period.

Once I get the arm straightened out and move it around for a few minutes, the pain goes away.

Any ideas?????



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Joshua Comments:

Hi.

The short answer is:

1. Increae your Magnesium for Tendonitis intake.

2. Increase your water intake.

3. Increase your good fat intake.

4. Ice Dip and Self Massage to make the structure(s) juicy again.



Mar 25, 2010
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Bicep/elbow pain
by: motts

Hi joshua - great site!

I have almost identical symptoms to the OP. I have not lifted anything, or do any strenous excercise recently..but I do work at a desk (And on a laptop on my lap...right now).

I also have been known to sleep on my arm on occasion.

A few nights ago just like the OP I started feeling a general pain around my bicep. by the next morning, it was a sharp shooting pain (on the inside of my arm, one inch up from my elbow) and it seems to have gotten worse since.
Like the Op, now my whole aches and I cant straighten my arm. Well...I can straighten it, but it hurts like @#$%.

I kind of figured it was a spasming muscle....but man its painful.

Last night I tried icing for a while (not an ice bath, but just a bag of ice) but I didnt get much relief. Later in the night, I soaked in a hot bath and that seemed to make the pain subside substantially (but only temporarily).

my question is: your suggestions are all focusing on ice bath. I know this deals with inflammation, but doesnt it tighten the muscles up more?
what about a heat pack? is that a bad idea? it seems like it might relax the muscle...

Please let me know what you think.
I can't type any more...

thanks


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Joshua Comments:

Essentially, if it's not a Tendonitis dynamic and you were fine one day and then hurting the next, it is essentially a muscle spasm. More like a sustained cramp, really.

Get a bunch of Magnesium in you.

Ice dips DO tighten muscles, strategically. 10 second dips for the shock response on the circulatory system. The sponge squeezes itself, pushes old fluid out, and then the body pushes a lot of new blood in.

This is great for dialing down Inflammation, and causing cirucuation.

If you don't have Inflammation, then heat is fine. I still like cold better for overall ciruculation. Do cold and hot if you want.

Sometimes tight painful muscles just need new blood/nutrition to relax/let go/feel better. Use heat, see what happens. Use cold/hot/cold/hot, see what happens.

Drink a lot of water too.

Stick a thumb into different spots on the bicep, a moderate-heavy static pressure. Something about static(constant) pressure tells the nervous system to relax the structure.

And don't immobilize it. Keep it moving. Don't force a stretch, but keep it moving. You'll notice the tendency is for it to freeze up. Constant motion will help combat this, and even just a little movement will do it.





Apr 01, 2010
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inner elbow pain
by: Kai

Hi

I have a similar problem. My right arm hurts when i fold or straighten it after it hangs on the side for few minutes or when i carry something. any idea?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Kai.

If it's like most similar issue, it's a matter of muscles get tight, they stay tight, tendons get irritated from all the extra constant tension, possibly some magnesium deficiency too, and at a certain point, you just get stuck into a pain dynamic.

The rest of this previous thread has my suggestions for you.

Drink a lot of water, nutritional supplementation, light stretching and self massage.




Apr 05, 2010
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fractured elbow
by: Sand

Hello
I have fallin and fractured my elbow 2 months ago, went to er and they told me it was a sprained wrist. took me 2 weeks before I went back to doc who then wanted more x-rays and found the brake a nondisplaced radial head and neck fracture and told me it was 2 late to cast it.

Now the bone itself is healed and I am having pain in my elbow that throbs and feels like fluid is filling in there and radiating pain in my thumb and some times my pinky side doc told me to do physical therapy first witch has had no change to the pain and some times in my elbow and fore arm there is some thing that pops in there and then hurts really bad, I have gotten full range of motion back into the arm and wrist and hand my ? is why am I am pain still after 2 months?

thank you.
Sand


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Sand.

1. Where exactly did you have a break?

2. What was going on that the ER thought had a wrist issue?

Let's hope that there's nothing funky/damaged in there.

In a perfect world, you crack the bone, it heals, etc.

Possibly it broke weird, and some nerve is somehow involved.

Hopefully, all your pain and such is from a stuck Process of Inflammation.

And any time there's pain/injury, everything tightens up, just like in a Tendonitis dynamic. Or more accurately, it starts a Pain Causing Dynamic.

I am worried a bit about that popping. Is a 'normal' kind of joint adjustment popping, or is it something odd/different/weird/abnormal?

It might behoove you to go find an big time/big name sports doc.

But first let's investigate and get some more info.

Start Ice Dipping, 40+ times a day, for the next 7-10 days, as described on the How To Reduce Inflammation page.

That's all I'm going to say about that, other than, in 7-10 days reply here with an update, results, and experience of all that.




Apr 11, 2010
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help!
by: Anonymous

I have some similar problems but it hurts the most when I tighten the elbow up as bent as it can be and then twist the wrist. Rotating the wrist with the arm in any position generates a snapping sound. Hurts intensely first thing in the morning.

I do tend to sleep in this arm, though I've been trying not to.

The problem first seemed to start after raking all afternoon with a very huge rake. But I also am a serious rower and in the winter row about 10K a day, play the violin an hour or two a day, and now that it's spring, ride a bike in the aero bar position about 6--10 hours a week.

I've been trying an ultrasound machine for about a week and heat wraps. A chiro I went to (this has been going on 6 months now) said it was tennis and golfer's elbow but it's really more in the middle of the elbow. The ultra sound book did not have anything about bicep tendonits which I thought it might be so I was trying the ultrasound there but that seems to make it worse.


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Joshua Comments:

Ultrasound makes it worse? Hmmm. I've never heard of it making anything worse before.

Well, Anonymous, you're a hand/arm intensive kind of person. It's not surprising that you are experiencing the effects of years of increasing muscle and connective tissue contraction.

The thing with Tendonitis, as it relates to the ultrasound book, is that it's all the same. Whatever it says for one kind of Tendonitis, you can do for any other kind.



Apr 25, 2010
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I Have The Same Thing
by: Steve B.

Hi,
I have an issue very similar to that described here, with a couple of major differences:
1) I know that sleeping with my arm outstretched under my pillow/head is a big cause. When I get up in the morning, the pain is at it's worst (right arm), especially if I turn my hand/forearm counter clockwise.

2) Over the course of the day, it eases up and is barely noticeable unless I stress it or put weight on it in any type of curling motion.

As the previous writer described, the pain in in the middle elbow and sometimes hard to isolate. Definitely up into the bicep and down into the forearm.

I've worked out lightly with weights for the past 20 years or so - a couple of times a week. Bench, triceps, curls. Curls are virtually impossible at this point, although presses and pulldowns are fine on a machine. I used to use dumbbells, but the strain of lifting them/getting them into position is too much.

Anyway, this started around Thankgiving '09, and has only gotten worse. I saw a Dr. who told me to essentially not use the arm for 2-3 weeks and to take Aleve 2x/day. I've done this haphazardly and suppose I'm at the point where I need to totally shut down the use of the arm for several weeks? Also, is there some sort of protective brace that would protect it from turning and me lying on it at night?

Any thoughts? Suggestions/insight would be greatly appreciated!


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Steve.

Totally shutting it down isn't going to work, unfortunately. It's already short and tight. Stopping any lengthening activities is just going to have it get shorter and tighter.

You could tie a line around your body/waist/arm, so you don't get into that habitual position. That's the cheapo version that will work just as well as an expensive brace thing.

The position isn't the problem, it's that all night due to the position, the muscles are working hard keeping themselves from being pulled apart (remember, Too Short is normal now, so normal length is an overstretch).

Gently stretch it repeatedly throughout the day. Don't cause pain, but make sure to get some length each and every time.

Also, try some Magnesium. Follow the link to read why.




Apr 30, 2010
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arm pain in14 year old boy
by: Anonymous

Hi im a 14 year old boy and one day i noticed that i could not bend my arm all the way.

there was no pain with it untill i tryed to bend it.

the next morning i woke up with a bit of pain in the elbo.

I first thought it was nothing i was just a little stiff but 3 days later i started to think about it and get a little scared about what might be wrong.

So i started to feel around and felt that my muscle felt a bit weird around my elbow so i started to rub it and ice it.

i finaly looked it up and found this site and saw that i too was not the only one with this and that there is ways to fix it.

i will follow the instructions to help it.

but one question, Will i need surgery for a little bit of pain in my arm?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Anonymous.

I sure hope you won't need surgery! (I certainly wouldn't have surgery for what you describe.)

How's it feeling now, days later of rubbing and icing?



May 01, 2010
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fractured elbow
by: Sand

Hello

I am back with a update on what is going on my elbow, it was fractured at the radial head the neck healed it is now a hair line fracture and now my elbow feels bruised dealing with that the ice helped out a lot.

The popping I was explaining about was definitly odd like some thing in there was moving and then making the noise, there was swelling on my ulna nerve that was causing pain to shoot down my hand and radiate into my pinky side and my radial nerve was also affected so my thumb side hurt as well all of it healed I have a little tendonitis left but that seems to be healing now as well I hope every 1 gets there arms better that pain just sucked.

sincerly,
Sandra


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Sand.

Thanks for the update!

Yeah, sometimes breaks can cause other problems.

As I often say, the injury usually isn't the problem, the body's response to the injury is the problem.

In the case of broken bones, the injury clearly is a problem. But the swelling and such can cause pain/problem, like the pressure on the nerve.

Keep icing, and make sure you have enough Magnesium and Vitamin D intake so you can utilize your Calcium and heal the bone better/faster.





May 06, 2010
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same problem
by: randi salisbury

For about two months i have been going thru the same thing with my right arm. i wish i could figure this out.

May 22, 2010
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Avery, Can't straighten arm for 2, from pitching at 13
by: Anonymous

hi..my name is Avery Felton and i haven't been able to straighten my arm for 2 years now. i think it all started when i was 13, playing baseball.

I use to pitch every game..but when i used to go to the doctor, they would tell me just to warm up when i know i warm up good.stuff like that..

But now i can't even straighten at all..but when i went get x ray..they told me i had loose bones floating around..whats up with that?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Avery.

Loose bones floating around? What does that mean? Like chips of bone broken off? A loose elbow joint?

It's unfortunate that your doctors weren't knowledgeable enough to help you out. If you were already warming up well enough, and all they had to offer you was advice to warm up before pitching....


What happens when you try to straighten your arm? Does it just stop? Does it hurt? If it hurts, describe the sensation.





Jun 02, 2010
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same pain - By Dom
by: big Dom

Ive had the same exact pain as the first post an similar to the others , i have difficulty in picking up heavy objects not necessarily too heavy but like a gallon bottle of water causes me sharp pain in the inside of my arm by the inner elbow as others wrote, i bent it an it hurts i seen my medical doctor he said it was nothing just maybe a swelling of a tendon, but its been a month now and its causing me great pain any suggestions? i tried the massaging and i do feel little pea like things an rub them but the pain is still there.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Dom.

Wow, that doctor was really helpful!

Ice Massage, and massage not just that pea spot, but also the entire biceps structure. The tendon itself isn't the only issue, it's tightness of the entire structure.




Dom

Jun 04, 2010
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I don't know what's wrong with my elbow
by: Julie

I was roller blading last night and it was slippery, I lost control and tried to break my fall but ended up landing on my arm awkwardly. It didn't hurt that badly, I got up and kept going.

Once I got in my car though, about 20 minutes later, I realized that I couldn't even use my left arm to drive. My elbow and inner forearm hurts when I try to extend or straighten my arm.

The only time the pain is bearable is when my arm is bent. I can move my fingers just fine, but when I try and twist my wrist I get a sharp pain in my elbow again.

The only way I can even get close to straightening my arm is if I turn my arm up (with my palm facing up) but even then it feels almost impossible.

I don't see any discoloration/bruising at all and it doesn't look any different really. When I rub around my inner forearm and elbow it relieves the pain. I really don't know what's going on with it and I don't want to waste time going to the doctor if it isn't serious, I can handle the pain for a little bit.

Any help would be veeeery much appreciated.


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Julie.

Well, assuming that you don't have a fracture (might be worth it to make sure, but you have to make the call on that...), and depending on how you fell:

1. YOu might have jammed your elbow joint, so it's either bruised or a little bit out of joint. The bone bruising doesn't sound like what you are describing, but if the elbow is out of joint that can lead to all sorts of pain.

2. I would Ice Dip as described on the How To Reduce Inflammation page, INTENSIVELY, as -many- dips a day as you can do for a couple days. That will drop the/take the edge off the pain and give you a better sense of where exactly there is a problem.

Do that, and then get back to me.

Jun 06, 2010
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I have a question about my arms won't bend straight!
by: Rochelle

Hi, I don't think I'm putting this in the right area, but I'll ask anyway and if you can tell what section my question goes under let me know and I'll repost it there.

I'm a 30 year old woman and ever since I was at least 3 and a half (possibly younger, my biological mother says she never noticed before I got adopted) I haven't been able to straighten out my arms properly. It doesn't hurt or anything, they're just annoyingly bent, I can't tell you at what angle because I suck at math lol but it's obvious if I put my arms straight infront of me as far as they'll go.(I remember a gym teacher actually trying to force them straight one time, he thought I was making it up to get out of Vollyball lol ooooooooooowwww! JERK! that hurt) My mom told me she took me for xrays when I was 6 or 7 and they said they were fused together at the elbow. What does that mean? how did that happen if I wasn't born that way? and is there some sort of surgrey to fix it?

thanx


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Rochelle.

This is a good place to ask your question:)

Some people just can't straighten their arms, due to genetically predisposition to too-short tendons locally or all over.

Some people, due to luck of the draw, have natural bone formation that just doesn't allow them full range of motion.

I worked on a guy one who had never been able to get his hand up over his head (like when reaching for the ceiling). He was just naturally immobile in that direction.

We did some work and got A LOT more range by opening up the connective tissue in the lats/arm pit area, and he was amazed!

But if it's a bone structure thing, there's no more range available.

If it's not painful or causing problems, then I wouldn't worry about it. Obviously it can be annoying or whatever, but if that's how your body's built, that's how your body's built.

You could have surgery to cut away the bone, but I wouldn't recommend it unless there's a -good- reason to. Who knows what bad things could happen during and later.

And, it's unlikely a mother would notice a baby not straightening it's arms, and/or you could as a baby, and the bone didn't start to limit you until you aged/it grew.




Jun 08, 2010
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Inner Forearm pain- NOT elbow - MARK
by: Mark V

I was hoping to find my answer here, but my pain is NOT in my elbow- rather, it is in my inner forearm. In fact, its in the diagram, my pain is in the darker brown muscles or tendons. After not playing tennis for some time, I've been playing again and Sunday I began really hitting my two handed backhand (I'm right handed). My inner left forearm began burning aching and ended up burning at the end of the day. Difficult to straighten my arm, and when I put my hand/wrist in certain positions I can put my finger on where it really hurts. Its not in the joint, but radiates from the inner elbow into those inner-forearm muscles. Have I pulled or strained something?


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Joshua Comments:

Hi Mark.

Maybe you have pulled (ripped) or strained (too much stretch of the tendon itself) something. Maybe things have just gotten too tight over time, and finally irritated more than your body can compensate for.

Look up 'brachio-radialis' on the internet. It's a big structure on the inside of the arm there, and is responsible for a lot of the issues in this thread. The Brachio-Radialis and the Bicep tendon can cause pain.

And the muscles that control them are responsible. TOO TIGHT FOR TOO LONG = PROBLEM!

Ice Dip. Ice Massage. Light Stretch. Frequently throughout the day.


*** Ok, Ok, I'll get the ebook done.....



Jun 08, 2010
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Joshua Comments response from MarkV
by: Mark V

Thanks for the guidance- but assuming I'm looking at the arm diagrams correctly, the brachioradialis is on the other side of my forearm from my pain. With my left arm bent 90 degrees and my palm facing up, thumb pointing out, my pain is on the inside (opposite my thumb) in the soft, fleshy part of the underarm/forearm. Based on diagrams and where I can pinpoint most of my pain to the touch, the pain is greatest just below the inner-elbow crease (toward the hand) and around the 'flexor carpi radialis' and the 'pronator teres'.

Temporarily feels better when I massage it. I've been doing NSAIDs and ICE for 48 hours and will be switching to heat tonight.


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Joshua Comments:

Having some anatomy pictures around sure is helpful. Essentially, one needs to work the entire area, but having an idea of the specific structures involved gives one an edge.

That's good it feels better when you massage it. Keep that up, it will feel better and better for longer and longer. Have to do it enough to restructure the tissue as well as retrain the nervous system that it's ok to be set 'loose' (as opposed to tight) again.





Jun 08, 2010
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Elbow inury
by: Anonymous

A week ago I got pancaked on the front of a sport boat running a very large rapid. I was holding onto a strap at the front of the boat, as we crested the wave I think my body flew up in the air while I was still holding on and I flatened out when I hit the floor of the boat upon hitting the back side of the wave.

Consequently I banged my right inside elbow on a d-ring (also my right knee). There was some pain, it hurt but not extreme, my hand felt a little numb and my first response was "I think I jammed my arm, I hope I didnt break anything or dislocate the bones". I was definitely stunned by the experience. I immediately iced it and the knee and took some ibuprofen.

I continued to ice it throughout the evening and for 72 hours. The next day, it was sore and bruised. I noticed my tricep seemed tight, probably pulled the muscle. Nothing looked deformed, the pain isn't too bad but I can not touch my shoulder or straighten out my arm all the way it feels stuck, it isn't too painful but enough that I don't want to force it. I also noticed my bicep seems to be flexed (when I try to straighten it) and the tendon connecting it to the elbow bones seems swollen but not painful or bruised. It still feels slightly jammed like it needs to popped into place but I am thinking it could just be the swollen soft tissue.

I am able to perform normal functions without pain, but I hestiate to lift anything too heavy or go golfing. I tried swimming but it felt a little sore to actually swim my usual 70 laps.

Any suggestions on when I should resume my sporting activities or if I should have an xray.

I keep thinking that if I rest it will eventually settle down. Maybe I am just inpatience but I really am missing my workouts and golfing.

Also, a little off subject but the bruised knee is another issue. No problems walking but every once it a while it feels like it buckles and I have to stop for a minute. Could a soft tissue injury do something to the tendons and ligaments under the knee cap. Most of the bruising is on the inside of the knee but the top of the knee is very sensitive to touch, like it was bruised too but no discoloration.

Sorry for the long note and thanks for any response.

Jo


Jun 20, 2010
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Joshua Responds to Jo - Help identifying inner elbow pain, can't straighten arm
by: The Tendonitis Expert

Joshua Comments:

Hi Jo.

1. Re: the knee. If a tendon is bruised, it will send an injury signal to the nervous system. The nervous system won't let the muscle that connects to the tendon fire 100%, as a measure of preventing future injury. This could explain the buckling. (Same goes for ligament injury, essentially.)

It sounds like you're dealing with bruising instead of rip/tear? You'll have to make the call on that.

2. Overall, if you rest, it likely will settle down. And you can help it go that direction faster.

3. You can't straighten the elbow, or the shoulder? I think you mean the elbow. Even if you didn't technically injury anything rip/tear wise, if it's strained or deeply bruised, again, the nervous system is going to go into overdrive and tighten things up, effectively 'locking' muscles tight.

Be gentle, try to lengthen without causing a pain signal. Massage, ice, wiggle/shake the muscle loosely. You have to deal with the tissue, but also the nervous system that is watching over the tissue. Relax them both.



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